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Posted: 2008-06-18 11:18
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According to the whitepaper flash options include: "Off, Auto and Red-eye reduction" (...as usual). But why oh why isn't there a force flash mode like on the N82?!?! Hope this will be remedied by a future firmware update...
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Posted: 2008-06-18 12:22
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From the "I'ts gonna blow it's competitors away" it sunk to "barely hangs on to other competitors". Remember, SE made it's move; Now its time for Nokia and Samsung.
BTW i just remembered a joke..
- Why didn't Pete learned to play the piano?
- ???
- Because he was born dead.
ok, it's a morbid joke, but i was LMAO!!!!!!

I will buy it for it's features, like the Flash+Java mix, and i need a new phone. So i'm gonna surprise myself with this christmas present.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 12:38
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original pictures mady by C905 from offical press conference from Prague on http://www.SEMania.cz - you can see it here: http://semania.mobilmania.cz/content/view/2905/2/

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Posted: 2008-06-18 12:50
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I was told yesterday that it was a CCD sensor, and when you look at the photos at 100% it would appear to confirm this. There could well have been changes made during production, especially as the camera is 7.99MP so there's no reason whatsoever to have it advertised as 8.1 (false advertising and you know that another manufacturer WILL complain!). I wonder if the final models will ship as 8.0?

That said, it could just be a much better CMOS sensor. At the end of the day, it won't matter if the pictures are sharp enough and have good colour reproduction.

Some photos were blurred, but I simply BT'd the photos from the camera and only took one of them myself.

The smart contrast feature is very good, and like the BestPic feature, is something that gives the handset an edge.

Video recording is perhaps a let down, but although many Nokia S60 handsets can do VGA recording, I wouldn't say they're excellent. The shearing effect if you're moving the camera is very poor, and so you are quite limited in what you can record (i.e. keeping the camera perfectly still). I presume this is down to the speed the phone itself can compress the data, so while it's 30fps it can only cope with fairly minimal changes from one frame to another.

Still, if SE had managed to do VGA capture even at 15fps some people would have preferred to have the option at least.

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Posted: 2008-06-18 13:17
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VGA video could be possible thanks to mod cam drivers but when you know that XS++ still can't support the K850...
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Posted: 2008-06-18 13:31
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http://stuff.tv/blogs/cool/ar[....]nd-f305-first-impressions.aspx


''The C905 is a fine looking slider phone, with a similar feel and UI to the K850i but with a whopping 8MP to play with alongside the usual range of camera controls now including face detection. The Karl Zeiss lens and Xenon flash nestles under a slinky brushed metal cover to give it a classy feel.''


karl zeiss??
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Posted: 2008-06-18 13:33
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Yeah its Carl Zeiss's mentally challenged cousin.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 13:36
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hehe. so its just a spelling mistake? but does it have carl zeiss?
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Posted: 2008-06-18 13:39
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Yeah its a spelling mistake, but thats the first I've ever heard of the C905 having a Carl Zeiss lens. I would say its wrong, but you'll have to get someone else to confirm that.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 13:50
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On 2008-06-18 13:39:13, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
Yeah its a spelling mistake, but thats the first I've ever heard of the C905 having a Carl Zeiss lens. I would say its wrong, but you'll have to get someone else to confirm that.



Seems to me something like that would be mentioned in the publicity blurb if it was true. Lets wait and see though.

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Posted: 2008-06-18 13:55
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probably got mixed up with cyber-shot digicams.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 13:56
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i heard it was nokia exclusive or something.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 14:02
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To Confirm, unfortunately, Sony Ericsson 'Cyber-shot' handsets do not use Zeiss Optics, although - nor do Nokia - the Nokia 'Zeiss Optics' are just cheap lenses made by Nokia Corp. to an 'acceptable' level that can be certified by Carl Zeiss AG.

Sony Ericsson handsets tend to use Sony's own optics and lenses - these are produced by Sony, and use the know how from Minolta - look at Sony's DSLR lenses that ship with the Alpha Range - they are rebranded Minolta Glass.

All this talk of 'Cyber-shot' handsets using Zeiss Optics is just an assumption by ill informed Journalists/Reviewers - who are Mobile Phone reviewers, NOT Camera/Optic Experts. I even recall when the K800i was first launched at CPW - they had the 'Zeiss' logo advertised with it.

Its because Sony's 'Cyber-shot' handsets all incorporate Vario Tessar lenses, so it's a natural assumption by all, that Sony Ericsson 'Cyber-shot' lenses are also Zeiss.

Rest assured they aren't.

Which is why my concept for Shiho reintroduced Minolta's 'MC ROKKOR' lenses - as Sony Corp. own Minolta, so using the Minolta name on a market segment they are obviously serious about would make sense.


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Posted: 2008-06-18 14:05
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I am waiting for a Nikon phone
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Posted: 2008-06-18 14:14
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@Vegetaleb

Haha, Nikon - personally not a Nikon fan - at all.

It always was Minolta V Nikon, and since Sony bought Minolta - its been Sony in place of Nikon.

I visited Minolta's factory in Osaka, and its something else - they are still using Minolta equipment, the building is still branded Minolta lol - but producing Sony lenses now - which are manufactured to the same high level as Minolta's lenses were.

The only reason one see's Nikon come out on top against Canon and Sony, even Pentax - is because Nikon has a reputation that nobody dare soil - having a 'Sony beat a Nikon' - well its Fifth gear all over again...

...When the BMW 135i beat a Porsche Cayman at its own game...

What is the world coming to, Sony beating Nikon, BMW beating Porsche - next we are going to hear that Chelsea FC lost to Barnsley...

...Wait, that already happened too lol.


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