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joemax
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Posted: 2007-11-10 15:18
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FFS... yawn
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Posted: 2007-11-10 15:29
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i think the pics from K850i is close to reality than the N95 ones
N95 i've got for 3 mounths
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yaniv84
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Posted: 2007-11-10 20:13
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On 2007-11-10 13:52:05, plankgatan wrote:
Nokia sucks...Sonyericsson rules...daahhhhhhh..(yeh, i know..im childish...



before you say such nunsense show me from your beloving k850 a pic that loocks a bit closer to that photo taken with N73 in FULL size & without EDITING
as i said before the k850 has for my opinion a low quality cam that shame
the label sybershot.

DarKMaGiCiaN
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Posted: 2007-11-10 20:48
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@yaniv84
N73??

I dont even know if some parts of the pic are real or someone paint it ^_*

@all
I have some old full size pic
http://www.bof3d.com/up/get-10-2007-bof3d_coma74ppyru.JPG
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01000xc4.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00964nd6.jpg
http://www.bof3d.com/up/get-10-2007-bof3d_com9y9xwzsr.JPG

and check the noise here
http://www.bof3d.com/up/get-10-2007-bof3d_com2zsnldka.JPG
http://www.bof3d.com/up/get-11-2007-bof3d_combratojx3.jpg


yaniv84
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Posted: 2007-11-10 23:00
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ALL the pic that you uppload have a low quality & HOW MUCH NOISE!!!!
specialy in the second & the third pic just look at the sky & see how
it looks wish full of noises & mix of colors
no matter how mutch you try to convice your self the pic quality of the k850 realy sucks.

[ This Message was edited by: yaniv84 on 2007-11-10 22:01 ]
plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-11-10 23:21
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like i said before...N95 take good outdoor/daylight pictures.....but its low light, indoor - Night pictures looks fairly bad, (and it have a realy shitty LED flash)..............

k850 have a better allround camera......everything else is just bollocks.
i want a camera who manage all environments.......(not a camera who manage some environments)

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Posted: 2007-11-10 23:41
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If everyone is getting so wound up about cameras on mobiles, then the world has gone tits up.

I bought my T650i for the phone itself, i don't care if my photos aren't upto K850i/N95 standards or even a 10mp digital camera, i bought it because i liked the look of it and it suits me.

80% of the photos i have taken are of me at gigs, out with my mates and so on. So they aren't that great quality, but they capture the moment and itsn't that what having a phone with a camera on about? I never fiddle about with the settings, i don't even know what half of them do! I just like having my mobile there for them shots that bring back good memories.

If i wanted to go around taking pictures of buildings or flowers (not that i would) i'd obviously take my Sony Digi-cam. And if i knew that i was going to somewhere i wanted good pictures taken, i'd obviously take my dedicated medium of taking photos.

I might get flamed i might not, but at the end of the day..................... IT'S A PHONE.
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Posted: 2007-11-11 01:15
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@Yaniv84

Are you kidding???? LOL

That is surely not the real green on a palm tree. I can tell you that... As I live in palm capital of the world ( FLORIDA )

That green is hidious ! What the hell happen to those palms??????


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plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-11-11 01:49
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ha ha...seems that somemone maybe have EDITING the picture after all...(actaully i dont care what he did).. N73 is like N95...it take good daylight pictures, but the rest is quite bad.........

k850 is still the winner, because of its better allround camera, (xenon flash + light sensor & better camera features(ISO, etc)... also, its sensor manage low light better

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Posted: 2007-11-11 02:38
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yaniv84:

have you obseverved the grass below on your picture? in the center they are sharp and clear but on the side of the picture, they are blurred and looked overprocessed seems like it's caused by either a JPEG compression or a lens design engineering fault from nokia noise reduction on nokia devices are pretty strong nowadays, when comparing N95 and N73 to the old yet excellent N90 N90 will produce noise and slight grains indoors, in N73 and N95 there was none at all - this could further explain why the former two phone's images are noise-free
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Posted: 2007-11-11 02:53
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n73 take a good pics?ha ha ha yes always with extra colours!i will buy k850 for 10days and make some photos on photo paper same day,i was making around 20 photos with n73 on paper 15x21cm and im not satiesfied at all,too too much colours!for me photografy is not photografy if is not on good old paper!sorry for bad english
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Posted: 2007-11-11 03:07
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On 2007-11-10 23:21:16, plankgatan wrote:
like i said before...N95 take good outdoor/daylight pictures.....but its low light, indoor - Night pictures looks fairly bad, (and it have a realy shitty LED flash)..............

k850 have a better allround camera......everything else is just bollocks.
i want a camera who manage all environments.......(not a camera who manage some environments)

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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-10 22:23 ]


What you say is big time BULLOCK. And you know it. You are like a sore broken record.

Look at the comparison picts here. N95 eats K850 for lunch in indoor picts

N95
http://smape.com/image.php?im[....]on/K850i/cam/Nokia_N95_012.jpg

K850i
http://smape.com/image.php?im[....]cam/SonyEricsson_K850i_013.JPG

N95
http://mobilarena.hu/dl/rev/2007-09/1716/n952.jpg

K850i
http://mobilarena.hu/dl/rev/2007-09/1716/k850i2.jpg


And it surprise surprise it also outdo K850i in dark flash photo.
N95 http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]k850/n95vsk800/17072007104.jpg
K850 http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]ic/k850/n95vsk800/DSC00908.JPG

http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]sonyericsson-k850-cam-en.shtml
On short distances the xenon flash ensures fair number of details, but the background gets fuzzy. Personally, I prefer the photo taken with the Nokia N95, for it looks more appealing.



DarkMagician wrote:
@yaniv84
N73??

I dont even know if some parts of the pic are real or someone paint it ^_*




Even in its processed state N95 and N73 color and details are much better than K850i. Look at the following and we know K850i is the travesty.

N95
http://smape.com/image.php?im[....]on/K850i/cam/Nokia_N95_018.jpg

K850i
http://smape.com/image.php?im[....]cam/SonyEricsson_K850i_020.JPG

Look at what the reviewer has to say about K850i:-

We don’t want to look as if we were to blame SE for putting a really bad camera inside the K850i, but here you go – as long as those signs look pink on the pictures instead of their real-life red colour, the K850i camera can not be dubbed as flawless. So it turns out that actually it’s the SE phone that indulges in such a vice as unnatural color rendering – if not always, then at least in a good number of cases. While The N95 image post-processing algorithm does a good job making picture more bright and deep, the K850i tends to corrupt the photos in a way. However it would be reckless to think that the N95 camera is godly, it’s a sure winner in this part of the contest. Images taken with it are obviously closer to the real-life picture as compared to K850i photos.

yaniv84
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Posted: 2007-11-11 03:42
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On 2007-11-11 01:49:00, plankgatan wrote:
ha ha...seems that somemone maybe have EDITING the picture after all...(actaully i dont care what he did).. N73 is like N95...it take good daylight pictures, but the rest is quite bad.........

k850 is still the winner, because of its better allround camera, (xenon flash + light sensor & better camera features(ISO, etc)... also, its sensor manage low light better

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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-11 00:54 ]


for you pic in low light condition (shrink like you like )
p.s the pic with the palms didnt had any editing straight from the phone



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Posted: 2007-11-11 06:09
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noise reduction on nokia devices are pretty strong nowadays

theis the main different between nokia and sonyericsson
and that why it seldom to find noise in nokia shots but that affecting on the details

so which is better pic with noise and details or without noise and without details ?

by the way there are lots of software that fix the noise problem
and lots of professional photographer use it

and sonyericsson can improve the quality of the pic in k850i because most of the problem that you people are talking about is a software problem ( I say that because I have a little background on sonyericsson camera driver )

[ This Message was edited by: DarKMaGiCiaN on 2007-11-11 05:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 06:27
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On 2007-11-11 06:09:41, DarKMaGiCiaN wrote:

noise reduction on nokia devices are pretty strong nowadays

theis the main different between nokia and sonyericsson
and that why it seldom to find noise in nokia shots but that affecting on the details

so which is better pic with noise and details or without noise and without details ?

by the way there are lots of software that fix the noise problem
and lots of professional photographer use it

and sonyericsson can improve the quality of the pic in k850i because most of the problem that you people are talking about is a software problem ( I say that because I have a little background on sonyericsson camera driver )

[ This Message was edited by: DarKMaGiCiaN on 2007-11-11 05:14 ]


Cam driver modding is what makes SE stand out of the crowd of best imaging phones imagine the bashed K800 was able to retrieve and prove it's quality further after better camdriver settings were introduced Nokia on the other hand relies on single software updates from the main site just to improve camera performance although modders are sometimes more intelligent in imaging settings than nokia imaging developers sadly if the update failed to impress the user, there are no other alternatives to use. while SE cam updates has lots of options nowadays

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