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Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
Posts: 408
From: 東京
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Thanks DexterMoser.
I am more in a hurry than you are... 
First I am on iphone 3Gs and I am hurried to join the 21st century!
Second, Docomo is killing me, they currently offer $400 cashback if I take the Fujitsu F-06E, which is a snapdragon 600 phone, but nice bullt quality, 5.2 inch IPS panel in a body slightly smaller than Z1, 3020 mah battery, 2GB ram, 64GB + micro sd option, IPS5/8/X, one seg/full seg built in antena, fingerprint sensor...
Offer limited through time, not sure what to do as the lure of money is very strong!
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rency0722
Joined: Jul 26, 2013
Posts: 85
From: Quezon City, Philippines. The
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Hi mates. Download this press kit coming from the Sony Mobile Blog. Extract the zip file and get the PDF of Xperia Z1 Review Guide.
Sony introduces Xperia™ Z1 – a stunning waterproof smartphone with a groundbreaking camera experience
@lemmy: GNote 3 benefits on Android 4.3's OpenGL ES 3.0 support. Just wait till Z1's upgrade.
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MNX1024
Joined: Jul 08, 2009
Posts: 413
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@shotokan That's a really nice discount! I have to admit, hard to ignore! If you don't need all the extra horse power, than I say go for the Fujitsu! For me, I needed it because I plan on using the TV out feature on the phone, plan to output HD videos to my TV. I primarily watch anime on my phone, which usually is in MKV and/or uses 10-bit encoding. Which is a pain to watch on my Nexus 4 because of audio delay and/or lagg due to the phone only using software decoders, meaning the slower the CPU, the more lagg and delay there are. With the S800, I haven't experience these problems yet. Now, of course, if the design of the Z1 and the SONY brand appeals to you, by all means, get what you want. |
djin
Joined: Jun 13, 2007
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@MNX1024,
Z1 does not have good video codec support. ITs one of the reason I believe that it has much lower video playback time as compared to other phones. I was hoping they would have improved it this time because s800 does support it natively. Mxplayer is a very good alternative in this case but it does use up more battery.
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MNX1024
Joined: Jul 08, 2009
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@djinn I do use MXplayer. I'm just mentioning that the decoder used for the encoding method of most anime files are software based since there's no hardware support for it on the SoC themselves. From what I know, S800 is no exception, I could be wrong so don't quote me on this. Anyway, getting back on topic, the remedy for this, is software decoding, but that requires a lot of horsepower. Which luckily the S800 can provide so far. |
randomuser
Joined: Sep 13, 2011
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Thanks for the link rency. So we find out some interesting facts about Z1 camera.
1. Z1 will get full manual control in a later update.
2. Z1 camera was indeed developed by Sony Cybershot & Alpha team
3. Z1 has a dedicated BIONZ Image processor and does not rely on S800 as we had thought.
4. Z1 uses pretty much the same components as the flagship Sony Cybershot camera for 2013 - Cybershot HX50V
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Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
Posts: 408
From: 東京
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Nice spot Ramu!
How could Sony not communicate more on this?
And thanks rency for the link
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lemmy31
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
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@ Rency0722
@lemmy: GNote 3 benefits on Android 4.3's OpenGL ES 3.0 support. Just wait till Z1's upgrade.
[ This Message was edited by: rency0722 on 2013-10-23 14:49 ]
Your missing my point. I think that benchmarking bears no relation to everyday use. I only installed AnTuTu after reading that particular post and like I said I have now uninstalled it and will probably never use it again.
My GN3 works really well in everyday use and im sure the XZ1 does aswell.
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Bonovox
Joined: Apr 13, 2008
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Benchmarks mean nothing to me not bothered. What I care about is that a phone does what I want and well. The XZ1 does just that,who cares for a few extra points over the other phones??  I took some lovely autumn shots today and in sunlight Z1 shines  There is a few blurry spots but that will be sorted in updates. Have uploaded them in Z1 photo thread 
Phone?? What phone?? |
rency0722
Joined: Jul 26, 2013
Posts: 85
From: Quezon City, Philippines. The
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On 2013-10-23 16:31:22, lemmy31 wrote:
@ Rency0722
@lemmy: GNote 3 benefits on Android 4.3's OpenGL ES 3.0 support. Just wait till Z1's upgrade.
[ This Message was edited by: rency0722 on 2013-10-23 14:49 ]
Your missing my point. I think that benchmarking bears no relation to everyday use. I only installed AnTuTu after reading that particular post and like I said I have now uninstalled it and will probably never use it again.
My GN3 works really well in everyday use and im sure the XZ1 does aswell.
[ This Message was edited by: lemmy31 on 2013-10-23 15:32 ]
Well, so much for competition, it's a win-win for both. I also do not believe in benchmarks, it's a case to case basis on whether how a person uses his/her phone.
To all, you're welcome. It's now worth downloading the press kit whenever Sony releases new phones. Read and read. But i'm still up to opening the Xperia Z1 in teardown and make it being analyzed by Chipworks. With that, we can tell the real innards of this powerful machine that we love. |
MNX1024
Joined: Jul 08, 2009
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Based on the text of the press kit, the Bionz seems to be hardware versus software like we thought. The funny thing is, if you look at the tear down, you don't seem to see a dedicated chip for it. Anyone wants to confirm this? Also, are we ever going to get that rumoured new JPEG engine/algorithm?
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reeflotz
Joined: Jun 15, 2010
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From: Philippines
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@ MNX1024
about the 10 bit mkv support, yup afaik s800 does not have hardware support for 10 bit encoded files which is not a surprise since even desktop computers with dedicated video card themselves do not have hardware support for it too. So we're all stuck to software decoding.
and it's because 10 bit is not really a mainstream format, quite the special format for us who likes to watch anime  and encoders choose 10 bit for the best possible quality for our anime and smaller size too. 
It's nice to know the s800 can handle it though through software mode.
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rency0722
Joined: Jul 26, 2013
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From: Quezon City, Philippines. The
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On 2013-10-23 17:09:11, MNX1024 wrote:
Based on the text of the press kit, the Bionz seems to be hardware versus software like we thought. The funny thing is, if you look at the tear down, you don't seem to see a dedicated chip for it. Anyone wants to confirm this? Also, are we ever going to get that rumoured new JPEG engine/algorithm?
[ This Message was edited by: MNX1024 on 2013-10-23 16:14 ]
That's what I am thinking since I started reading the PDF. Well, it's whether where do you believe, on PR or tech teardown. |
Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
Posts: 408
From: 東京
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Oh so that is just PR after all?
I think anyway what is important is that it works, but really they should get their marketing fixed.
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ascariss
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Well the release states this
Finally, Xperia Z1 is our first smartphone to use BIONZ for mobile – this is built on the same technology that powers the Sony Alpha digital SLR range and replaces the use of the smartphone’s main processor with one that is dedicated to photography, producing far better white balance calculations, reducing image noise and increasing the image quality.
But then, no dedicated chip was found in the teardown? Unless not all the chips were identified in the teardown, and ifixit hasn't done a teardown yet. Although if there was a processor, wouldn't Sony have on the board with the BIONZ branding?
btw what are the possibilities that Sony will add more manual control to the z1? as in exposure length, and being able to select different iso?
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Posted: 2013-10-23 15:27
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