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>500
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needs to be a site with international shipping.
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NimmyxHuynh
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On 2008-09-16 06:15:57, >500 wrote:
needs to be a site with international shipping.
http://www.expansys.com/
does international shipping. seeing how i'm from the states and expansys is located in the UK (well, the one i'm pre-ordering it from).
I think they should ship to Melbourne as well. 
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>500
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have they given you any approx ship dates nimmy?
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anonymuser
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On 2008-09-16 04:01:32, pinguino2 wrote:
Very simple. The YOUTUBE video is done with an old ROM built. It is not yet optimized. Take a second look at the UNWIRED video. Read the text. It has a newer ROM close to final production. The improvement in speed is obvious.
It makes absolutely zero sense that the expert guy at SE, making a well publicised webcast, would be using a phone with an old ROM build. In fact it's far more likely that it's this new and improved September build that prompted the recent flurry of reviews and demos.
The really obvious difference is that the SE guy uses the phone, it's already running in his pocket at the start, he doesn't boot it up on screen like the unwired reviewer. A running phone, that's actually loaded up with user data and being used as a day to day phone, is always going to run slower than a review model that's just been rebooted, and has only been played with anyway.
Put it this way, I use a year old WinMo phone right now, and having seen all the X1 videos, I don't feel like I've seen anything new. It's just another Qualcom powered WinMo smartphone, with the same old so-so performance. Even the Panels seem familiar in a sense, just another kludgey mish-mash of a UI perched on top of WinMo, full of inconsistencies and pointless eye-candy (how many different clocks can one phone need??) - it just all seems very dated to me.
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>500
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mobile fun has it for 499gbp + 5.95gbp for RMSD.
and an estimated dispatch date of October 7th:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/15912.htm
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tonyitalian
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ok so im in a real fix!
i am in the UK till the 9th of October and realllllllly want this phone!
Now mobilefun.co.uk and expansys.com both have thee phone on pre - order, mobilefun says it should sipatch by 7th oct but obv they are not a 100 percent sure... so u guys think i shud order this with them?? wil they confirm if i still want the phone once they have it in stock like expansys???
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max_wedge
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On 2008-09-16 09:17:30, Boinng wrote:
how many different clocks can one phone need??
I get what you are saying, but just because the marketing gurus fail to find anything more exciting than clocks to tempt us with doesn't necessarily mean their can't be truly useful panels.
I like the it a lot better concept imho than the htc touchflo. I've been using touchflo for a few days and it still needs a lot of tweaking (for usability) and is little more than a today screen replacement visually, but it DOES provide much better finger touch control than a WM device without anykind of touch interface.
If Xperia improves on that then it's got potential. Most end users will care about the overall user experience more than the specifications. If it doesn't have the best camera or the fastest hsdpa or the fastest processor won't matter that much if it is a joy to use (otherwise why the success of the iPhone?)
I'm keen to see xperia in the flesh and actually try it out for myself. If I can use panels for most daily operations (I don't mind using WM for file operations or other down and dirty configuration kind of stuff) and they're seemless and fast enough to be used efficiently, then I think it has a lot of potential.
However if you have to disable panels just to have a usable system (aka an old laptop with vista installed and aero turned off), then the X1 is not going to be very good value for money. I do like the hardware design (style and ergonomics), but the low spec would put me off if it wasn't for the potential of the xperia UI.
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Caspa
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On 2008-09-16 05:05:11, borisisinvin wrote:
Well, who here would still buy an X1 if SE stopped supporting Windows Mobile in the Xperia brand after the X1? I have an article here, by way of Gizmodo, from Reuters that states that SE and the Xperia brand may not support Microsoft's OS after the X1's inaugural launch. I smell P990 like epic fluster cuck on the horizon...
here's the article if you're interested in reading it:
http://www.reuters.com/articl[....]eedName=technologyNews&sp=true
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They have always stated that the Xperia brand is not tied to a single platform and that it will have multiple platforms so nothing new and no need to panic... |
Jabe
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On 2008-09-16 10:47:23, max_wedge wrote:
I do like the hardware design (style and ergonomics), but the low spec would put me off if it wasn't for the potential of the xperia UI.
what low specs, is there a phone out there with better specification?
It's all the other things that worry me. Battery performance, performance in terms of speed and stability and last but not least SE support for this phone (we all know there was next to none for p990).
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On 2008-09-16 05:41:35, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-09-16 04:24:52, pinguino2 wrote:
...They confirmed increase in memory from 256 to 384mb...
 Increased again!? Are you serious they went to 384MB of RAM ? I wonder what purpose that would serve since 256MB seemed like more than enough. Even everything was running quickly and smoothly on a 128MB model. Perhaps they are making it WM7 ready.
Thanks Nimmyxhuynh for the link. I'll check it when I get the chance.
For once, I think they are trying to avoid the P990i scenario. The increase in RAM is for avoiding it executing functions slow. Now, can we get a UIQ variant?
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goldenface
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Stuff.tv:Unboxing the X1
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On 2008-09-16 11:47:39, Jabe wrote:
what low specs, is there a phone out there with better specification?
Well yes, a few of them, arguably. The Touch Pro is near identical (the exact same processor, only slightly less ram) but adds an acceleromotor and TV-out. The Omnia has a better processor, arguably, as does the Iphone. These are all in the shops now, not still waiting for release like the X1.
The HTC Touch HD looks set for release very soon, and combines everything from the Touch Pro/X1, minus the keyboard, but plus probably the best screen ever seen on a phone, a 3.8" 800x600 panel.
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max_wedge
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On 2008-09-16 11:47:39, Jabe wrote:
On 2008-09-16 10:47:23, max_wedge wrote:
I do like the hardware design (style and ergonomics), but the low spec would put me off if it wasn't for the potential of the xperia UI.
what low specs, is there a phone out there with better specification?
It's all the other things that worry me. Battery performance, performance in terms of speed and stability and last but not least SE support for this phone (we all know there was next to none for p990).
[ This Message was edited by: Jabe on 2008-09-16 10:50 ]
no tv out, only 3MP camera, vga 30fps video in 3gp only, only 3.6Mbps HSDPA. A few other things also, that some handsets already have. There are more comprehensive WM's coming out than the X1.
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Nitro Fan
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On 2008-09-16 10:47:23, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-09-16 09:17:30, Boinng wrote:
how many different clocks can one phone need??
I get what you are saying, but just because the marketing gurus fail to find anything more exciting than clocks to tempt us with doesn't necessarily mean their can't be truly useful panels.
I like the it a lot better concept imho than the htc touchflo. I've been using touchflo for a few days and it still needs a lot of tweaking (for usability) and is little more than a today screen replacement visually, but it DOES provide much better finger touch control than a WM device without anykind of touch interface.
If Xperia improves on that then it's got potential. Most end users will care about the overall user experience more than the specifications. If it doesn't have the best camera or the fastest hsdpa or the fastest processor won't matter that much if it is a joy to use (otherwise why the success of the iPhone?)
I'm keen to see xperia in the flesh and actually try it out for myself. If I can use panels for most daily operations (I don't mind using WM for file operations or other down and dirty configuration kind of stuff) and they're seemless and fast enough to be used efficiently, then I think it has a lot of potential.
However if you have to disable panels just to have a usable system (aka an old laptop with vista installed and aero turned off), then the X1 is not going to be very good value for money. I do like the hardware design (style and ergonomics), but the low spec would put me off if it wasn't for the potential of the xperia UI.
Hi max_wedge, I was interested with your point about the Iphone, Yesterday I spoke to three friends in Sweden (All ex Sony Ericsson stalwarts and I was trying to see if I can get a better price on the X1 in Sweden) all of whom I discovered have recently moved to the Iphone 3g. Yet six weeks after the initial "Its Apple It's Cool" hype wore off all are now questioning their sanity in making the purchase!!
They all had the same gripe list
They don’t like the Camera
They don’t like no MMS
They don’t like no A2DP Bluetooth and lack of compatibility with other devices
They hate the browser and its lack of flash so now they cant get certain sites
They are not that keen on the lack of feedback through the screen!
They don’t like the poor battery life and they can’t now just slot a new one as they did before!
They don’t like no cut and paste
They hate the cost of running the damn thing
So is it really the case that people are not that bothered about specs of a device or is it a case of they are just getting caught up in the typical Apple hype and the “Eye Candy” aspect of the device? I have said many times the Ipod and Iphone are a triumph of "marketing over function" and I stand by that.
But all this then started me thinking and to question my own interest in the X1!
Am I just getting caught up in "marketing Hype"? Especially after wasting my time sitting through the lousy Sony Ericsson web cast yesterday.
And when I see so many posts referring to "Mediocre performance" from WinMo devices in general. I am starting to ask myself is this actually something new? Or am I in danger of making a substantial investment of cash in yet another performance sapping shell around an OS that is inherently slow and out of date anyway?
I am going to remember the experiences of Lars, Gordon and Leif and wait and see what people are saying about this thing six weeks after they have invested before I make my final decision I am no longer so sure.
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@max_wedge
The X1 is HSDPA 7.2mbps.
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