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Ricky D
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I think they were hoping the Z Ultra would fill the gap to the small screen tablet department.
I think though that they realise that it doesn't really fit the bill, but then what? A 7" tablet when Z Ultra is almost 7"? I think an ~8-8.5" very slim bezel tablet would be interesting. 7" is too close to Z Ultra and not defining enough, bigger and it may as well be a full sized tablet.
I'd also like to see an 11" screen in the Tablet Z frame. Just thin the bezels a fraction, don't change any other external dimension, up the screen to 11". A clip on keyboard wouldn't go amiss either kind of like Tap 11 with android, no bulge on the back and a better keyboard/cover design would be nice.
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what in the world is that ugliness?! 
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On 2013-11-05 04:43:57, moogoo wrote:
what in the world is that ugliness?!
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Dual sim version of Xperia SP for China, announced together with the Z Ultra and C.
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I don't understand why Sony released the Z Ultra aside of making a statement to the world "we are the first company who released a 6.4 inch ultra thin phone, etc. we are different", its nice, but is that important so much? its not unique enough to have a crowd of followers. in sales, i'm sure the phone is not appealing at all for 99% of people you will ask if they think about it for a moment after the wow effect of the screen size, they will go for the note or lumia 1520 if they want a phablet or will not buy a phablet for now until there are better android options. why? most people don't carry a bag with them all the time and don't want to be dependent on it any way - inferior pocketability. even its display which is a big focus is not as good - htc one max and lumia 1520 got better display. the price is not appealing either - people will choose samsung mega if they want to save money. they make it ultra thin, but it doesn't make up for its height. strange decision. i have no doubt that they are going to use a smaller screen for it's successor. 6.2 inch if not smaller. but why not do it in the first place? are they using consumers as testers? i don't think that sony expect it to sell a lot but anyone here thinks that the Z Ultra has a chance to sell even half of what it's stronger rivals, the Note 3 and Lumia 1520 will?
another thing, Samsung and Nokia don't put inferior internals - mainly of the camera. in fact, every Note that is released got better specs then the Galaxy S has. not even including a LED flash is silly.
personally, none of the current phablets on the market are appealing to me. the 1520 comes very close but it's windwos OS i don't like.
i don't think that the Z Ultra is a good reason for not offering a mini tablet.
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It was a very tough decision, I think! I agree with ya, don't understand why Sony took a 6,4" screen instead max. 6". I would prefer thicker body + better battery.
The Ultra isn't a really flagship in my eyes. It has just a big display and a good processor. But anyway, the amazing design and the perfect building quality making the device kinda special!
I would glad to see a successor, with smaller screen and REAL flagship specs. The Ultra lacks on battery, camera, led flash, internal storage and ram, stereospeakers for its size...
It hurts so much, when Sony always doing so pretty nice devices, but not perfect inside.  I had the Ultra for 2 weeks but I went back to the Samsung Mega. Now biggest favourite would be the Lumia 1520, but not with that crap windows. It has everything what I want in the Z Ultra... One Max too old cpu and too expensive. Note III normaly the best, but can't see anymore this plastic shitty plus the ugly UI and go to hell amoled!
Z1 should get a 5,5" instead making a facelift... Would be nicer to close this gap between 5" - 6,4". It's too big difference, pity...
I'm using original Z and Mega atm.
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amirprog
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Agreed. the Z Ultra feels like half baked. like they had to announce their kind of phablet just for the sake of announcing it. for example, the Z1 is a GREAT device, over all the best IMO, and much complete device then the Ultra, but why not make it even better? why still put overall inferior display and image processing software? sony supply ALL the leading smartphone companies with their sensors: LG, Apple, Nokia, Samsung, HTC, but all of them do better job at processing image, at least in low light condition.
also, samsung is genius in terms of designing device characteristics. they are making the samsung mega a mid range device for a reason - they know for most it won't be appealing so they put a lower price tag to it while offering other slightly smaller device but they make it a premium one. that is really smart! they lead this industry for a reason, it's not just marketing, but like you wrote, they fall at phone design and touchwiz and on top of that, i have sentiments for sony, cameras, old phones - i had W800i years ago, playstations, headsets, walkmans, tv, etc...
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What I find interesting there King-James is that the Galaxy Mega 6.3 uses a mid end Snapdragon 400 CPU, you were prepared to drop the S800 powered Z Ultra for the S400 Mega, wasn't there a major degradation in performance when going to the Mega?
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On 2013-11-05 19:59:43, Tsepz_GP wrote:
What I find interesting there King-James is that the Galaxy Mega 6.3 uses a mid end Snapdragon 400 CPU, you were prepared to drop the S800 powered Z Ultra for the S400 Mega, wasn't there a major degradation in performance when going to the Mega?
Isnt the Mega still running at 720p or 768. If so it just a S3 scale up in screen size. It should run the same as S3. MASSIVE drop in performance compare to the Z Ultra. Only thing that stop me from getting the Z Ultra was the lack of LED flash honestly, having a phone/tablet like device with me that is not too big, not too small is is great. I don't even need my ipad anymore even when I at home. |
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@amirprog
Absolutely agree! I can't understand Sony's decisions and plans. IMO they have slept too much and have no really new innovations like years ago.
That you know, I born with Sony, grown up with Sony, still using Sony devices, but not really happy anymore. That is why, I'm using also other manufacters like Samsung for example. But in heart only Sony. Sony has such a great design like no other. I still waiting for an ulimate phone which beat all the competition... with wow effect, but can dream long... Just want see Sony back on top...
And yes, you have right with that point, that Samsung first have put a middle class 6 incher, to see how it will be in market, famous or not, just to see, does it make sense, to make a better one, then you can bring a highend device! But Sony just has thrown a "monster" and expect too much. It was not neccessary...not like this one. I hope for a Ultra II.
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I must say Samsung devices are much faster than Sony. Believe me or not, I had many devices, you won't feel a big difference by using this two phones. Ultra and Mega both fast. In Benchmarks ofc Ultra beats Mega plus the cpu is more battery efficient, but rest, for standard using, you will say it's same. The Mega is faster than the Xperia Z and has better reaction thanks to the gorilla glass. This is also a critical point, that I still don't understand. It's time to use gorilla glass Sony! All others use it too.
@Gitaroo
720p SC-LCD. It runs faster than the S3 and Note II. And the lcd beats the amoleds easy. I'm really surprised from the just dual-core phone and overall performance. It's the best device you can get for 300 euros atm. I've payed 450euros 4 months ago.
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Tsepz_GP
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On 2013-11-06 00:39:34, king-james wrote:
@amirprog
Absolutely agree! I can't understand Sony's decisions and plans. IMO they have slept too much and have no really new innovations like years ago.
That you know, I born with Sony, grown up with Sony, still using Sony devices, but not really happy anymore. That is why, I'm using also other manufacters like Samsung for example. But in heart only Sony. Sony has such a great design like no other. I still waiting for an ulimate phone which beat all the competition... with wow effect, but can dream long... Just want see Sony back on top...
And yes, you have right with that point, that Samsung first have put a middle class 6 incher, to see how it will be in market, famous or not, just to see, does it make sense, to make a better one, then you can bring a highend device! But Sony just has thrown a "monster" and expect too much. It was not neccessary...not like this one. I hope for a Ultra II.
@Tsepz_GP
I must say Samsung devices are much faster than Sony. Believe me or not, I had many devices, you won't feel a big difference by using this two phones. Ultra and Mega both fast. In Benchmarks ofc Ultra beats Mega plus the cpu is more battery efficient, but rest, for standard using, you will say it's same. The Mega is faster than the Xperia Z and has better reaction thanks to the gorilla glass. This is also a critical point, that I still don't understand. It's time to use gorilla glass Sony! All others use it too.
@Gitaroo
720p SC-LCD. It runs faster than the S3 and Note II. And the lcd beats the amoleds easy. I'm really surprised from the just dual-core phone and overall performance. It's the best device you can get for 300 euros atm. I've payed 450euros 4 months ago.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-11-05 23:54 ]
Wow, that is incredible Mega6.3 faster than the Xperia Z in real world usage, and equal to the Z Ultra, it means Samsung did an excellent job in terms of optimization.
Hopefully next year Sony will have the perfect phone for you.
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Xperia M is already on sale in the UK, here's the link.
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