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Xperia Z Officially Announced |
Karun
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@Guys
Come on. We can all have a rational discussion. We love Sony smartphones, doesn't mean we have to force others to see our viewpoint.
@Tsepz
Majority of the people don't wait for months at long to buy a phone. Only high end enthusiasts like us do. So, if X is in the market for a good phone, he will get the one that appeals to be the best at that given point of time. So irrespective of the number of flagships a company has, its more pertinent for them to have products that match customer needs. If Z is available in March, even if GS4 is out in may and has better specs, Z still has a window of 3 months. Similarly, the H2 Sony flagship will topple GS4 specs so till its out, GS4 has a free run at the top of the market. Having multiple flagships is not a flawed strategy, its just a different one. If multiple flagships help in garnering higher sales, so be it.
@Etaab
The USPs of the Z are:
1. As of now, the best processor in the market
2. Dust/ Waterproof
3. Slick design
The last point is subjective. But overall impression has been positive. Its the first time dust and waterproof feature bundling hasn't been compromised with weak specs.
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etaab
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Dont get me wrong I dont hate Sony or the Z. Thats not what im about.
But I do agree with Tsepz, and trust me, myself and him had serious words on this forum a long time ago with the Symbian vs Android debate.
Karun, im not sure about the cpu since im not too bothered about the very top pinnacle of cpu technology as long as the phone can run up to date software for a year minimum whilst you have the phone so I dont see them as USPs.
Neither do I class the design or waterproofing as proper USPs. I dont like the design, to me its trying to look too much like an iPhone. But thats taste.
Software is the area of innovation Sony need to enter. So called gimmicks like Samsungs smart stay I find very useful and works 100% of the time. This is where Sony need to improve. The HDR video recording sounds good, but nothing no other phone couldnt do and something not really necessary. Most people dont shoot many videos on their phones unless they have kids. Video capture on mobiles was once a big deal but these days its just a pre requisite.
HTC have had some of the best ideas where innovation is relevant. Like taking pictures whilst shooting images. Samsung clearly ripped off that idea which is in my Sgs3 and taking pictures from pre recorded videos also.
I just get the impression Sony aren't trying and have little faith in their own products if they plan to release another flagship in the same year. I respect Apple and Samsung for NOT doing that.
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DSF
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One problem with Xperia Z is the ergonomics. The shape of the phone (dimensions, corners) make it hard to operate one-handed (eg: reaching upper corner). But I have to agree I like the sleek design of the smartphone.
PS: the discussion goes silly.. and funny, the people calling others fanboys don't realize they are at least the same if not worse.
@etaab don't feed the trolls! It's just waste of time..
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se_dude
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People here seem to downsize the effect the waterproof/dustproof feature will have on the popularity of the Xperia Z. I can envisage stores keeping a fishtank on standby to show off the Z's water resistant feature, something which will have an instant impact on someone who is in the store to buy a phone. And let us be honest, Sony is a household name, unlike SE which was seen and treated as a subsidiary. They can brandish out names like Walkman,Bravia,Exmor RS and even go overboard over their Playstation integration, which in itself are USPs exclusive to Sony.
Say a guy goes into Carphone Warehouse and wants to buy a phone, given a choice between SGSIV and XZ.
Both phones are quad core, Krait and A15 dont ring a bell on 99% of consumers. The XZ comes from the fishtank, the SGSIV comes from the shelf
XV +1.
Terminologies associated with Sony
Walkman,Bravia, Playstation. Walkman-irrespective off actual sound quality is a household name since the 90s for their sound quality.
Bravia- Not sure if any TV brand has had as much exposure as sony have had with bravia.
Playstation- again. No point discussing the pros and cons of using the name playstation.
All these in a 7.9mm frame.
And people trying to liken the XV to iPhone let me remind yout that Samsung have been debarred from selling the SGSII in the US for replicating Apple's design/. Lets keep to facts here.
Thanks.
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mefa2
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Xperia Z goes for pre-order in Poland. It's 2799 PLN (910 $, 680 Euro), if we order it now we will get 2 extra smart tags and "elegant case". There is also info that we can expect it will arrive to us about 18.02.2013.
In my opinion it's a little bit too expensive, and I will ait to order it when price will go down, after a few weeks.
http://www.sonymobile-sklep.p[....]y_xperia_z__przedsprzedaz.html
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se_dude
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@etaab- If Sony release a 5.5 inch phone at the end of the year, we can liken it to the Note II and not brand it as a flagship?  |
Bonovox
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The back of the phone is the horrid part.
Phone?? What phone?? |
etaab
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I personally think 5" screens should be the maximum size for a mobile phone. Anything bigger just increases the size of the phone. So yeah 5" 1080p screens should be the industry norm for a flagship device.
I love the Galaxy Note but its too big to be a phone for everyday use. If Sony made one it could be a direct competitor to the Notes but not have it as their flagship 'phone'.
You guys are right though, the Z is probably the only water / dust proofed phone with decent specs worthy of a flagship so yes, that could be its single most important USP.
Not a USP that would attract me though. Its not something id find handy in every day use unless I worked in an environment or had a hobby like fishing where the phone might fall into water.
Also I cant imagine it attracting Johnny Average from his iPhone.
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randomuser
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Then what will make u like it ? If they ripped off small developer's ideas like Smart stay and Apple's Siri and marketed them ??????????
And wait for the GS4 announcement, you have a nice surprise in store for you if you think 5 inch should be the maximum size for a phone.
And yes please tell me what GREAT USP Galaxy S3 has !!! 
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dibdin
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On 2013-01-15 14:23:00, Sean72 wrote:
The back of the phone is the horrid part.
Because it attracts fingerprints you mean? If so, you could say the same about the Arc/Arc S and K850, as they fingerprint magnets too.
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winnerzero
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Wow, so much flaming going on...never used to be like this...just saying...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I hope everyone can be civil about it...
I honestly think this deep heated argument stems from the fact that people still have a stigma against Sony, prob not as a gaming company but more as a tech company that has fallen of its pedestal...they used to innovate like nobody could imagine. They have since gone downhill which even the CEO kaz admits... They are since trying to regain their place in a society that feels companies like apple and samsung r more innovative...how people feel about that us their opinion, such as, I personally don't thinksamsung or apple r innovative, they simply have excellent marketing teams that make it seem simple to the general public that they should get their phones cos they r the best...well, this is Sony's move to get back into the business, they have come out with a kickass phone that people who appreciate great design with no compromise on performance and features will definitely like and most likely buy. someone mentioned that the software side is Sony's downfall but I think that the ecosystem is so far advanced now that u can literally download an app for everything u need. Same goes for pretty much every android phone, why do u think that Samsung is looking to slowly move away from android cos without android they would probably not be anywhere as big as they are. There was an article about this floating around on the web. Does Samsung make android successful or the other way around? I think Samsung knows that the marketing garbage theyshove down people's throats is nonsense, it's not innovative at all but they have been successful in selling it to the public. It's Sony's turn now to wow their fans back and I for one love it. It doesn't need so many USPs that people will flock to them straight away, it just needs a foot in the door and make a profit then Sony can start pumping the marketing right in peoples faces in order to encourage them to continue using xperias n that's where water and dust resistance comes in.after using a water and dust resistant phone that looks bloody sexy, they wouldn't want to go back to a non water resistant phone...I know, cos I'm using the Xperia v right now n will never go back to a normal phone. I'm really happy with Xperia n everyone of my friends that used my phone love it. Beautiful interface with just as many gimmicks as the galaxy range and even if not, it's not as if u can't download the feature from the play store! I certainly hope people realise this as I have and that the ecosystem is so important.which is why I think windows phone 8 will have a hard time to catch up despite being a really good system and blackberry is as good as dead. Sorry for rant, just my opinion... |
etaab
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Tbh I doubt ill buy another phone this year. Im so happy with the sgs3 not even its successor will probably get me to buy it. And if the screen is much bigger I dont think id like it.
I persoanlly have changed jobs this year and my finances now mean after paying all my bills I could buy a new flagship phone every month. So unless some real innovation comes from Htc or Sammy ill keep my Sgs3.
What would make me like the Z ? Nothing atm. I just dont like the design and theres no significant (to me) USP worth getting it for. I dont doubt its a good phone but would like to see more inspiring designs and better software gimmicks. Laugh all you guys want but I find smart stay invaluable now, pop up play also - I just wish it worked in the Youtube app also.
These gimmicks are what differentiates one manufacturers phone from their rivals Android phones. Sony needs to do this now - this is very important !! . Which is why we dont see Nokia Android phones. Nokia are going down a better route imo by making the best WP phones.
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Away
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http://www.androidcentral.com[....]xperia-z-pre-orders-priced-399
This is incorrect, this doesn't include VAT etc.
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randomuser
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Actually, Expansys are lying.
It says £399.99 until you click on it at which point it says £529.99. When you then pre-order it displays as £440 (£399.99 + 20% VAT). Sneaky buggers. Avoid.
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Away
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On 2013-01-15 15:07:04, randomuser wrote:
Actually, Expansys are lying.
It says £399.99 until you click on it at which point it says £529.99. When you then pre-order it displays as £440 (£399.99 + 20% VAT). Sneaky buggers. Avoid.
Yep, I realised when I tried to see what happens when I pre-order. Stupid guys raised my hopes, lol. |
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