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Posted: 2012-10-29 18:05
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Very interesting new tech to come it seems.

7.9M units.
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Posted: 2012-10-29 18:20
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On 2012-10-29 16:33:23, randomuser wrote:
Anything to do with AUO is something to get excited as Sony and AUO are pretty much in a "high level" partnership for mobile screens, LCD panels for Bravia/Vaio, and OLED panels.
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Is this the display that will be used for the H2 flagship?
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Posted: 2012-10-29 18:33
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Bit off topic but the Nexus 4 was just announced, that hardware at that price! Will Sony follow this or do we still expect the same high prices? Are the prices of these components starting to come down or is it simply a Google strategy?
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Posted: 2012-10-29 18:35
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All the Nexus devices are always cheaper that the high end phones from any manufacturer.
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Posted: 2012-10-29 18:39
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On 2012-10-29 18:33:17, badassmam wrote:
Bit off topic but the Nexus 4 was just announced, that hardware at that price! Will Sony follow this or do we still expect the same high prices? Are the prices of these components starting to come down or is it simply a Google strategy?

Its a Google strategy.
I think their aim is to stampede the annoying US carriers that have screwed them over, while simultaneously setting a new standard for pricing of Consumer Electronics, while maintaining superb build quality.

Shame that Sony haven't been made an official partner yet, but damn, do I hope they are at some point.
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Posted: 2012-10-29 19:22
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On 2012-10-29 18:33:17, badassmam wrote:
Bit off topic but the Nexus 4 was just announced, that hardware at that price! Will Sony follow this or do we still expect the same high prices? Are the prices of these components starting to come down or is it simply a Google strategy?


It's a Google strategy. They want to present devices with powerful specs for a very competitive price point, and they want the OEMs to do the same. And that's another reason why the Google Play Store is not officially available globally, IMO. There's a high chance that their Nexii, with their very cheap prices, would trump down the sales of their OEMs and they would lose their support.

Unfortunately, we didn't see a Sony Nexus. They chose LG because of the Optimus G, chose Samsung for the Exynos 5250. If Sony gets it right for 2013, then we might see the Xperia Nexus.
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Posted: 2012-10-29 19:26
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Haha, well, if they ever make a Nexus Camera, I think I know where they're going to go. Most, high-end smartphones (Including the Nexus 4) use Sony's BSI Sensors, with the exception of Nokia.
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Posted: 2012-10-29 20:30
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Could the CES/MWC phones come with Android 4.2 Jelly Bean or not right out of the box?

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On 2012-10-29 19:26:57, -XYZ wrote:
Haha, well, if they ever make a Nexus Camera, I think I know where they're going to go. Most, high-end smartphones (Including the Nexus 4) use Sony's BSI Sensors, with the exception of Nokia.


The Nexus 4 and Optimus G do not. They use camera modules from LG Innotek.
The Nexus 4 and the Optimus G have a below average camera.

According to the video, the LG Optimus G's camera includes "High Accuracy PKG technology from LG Innotek," which according to LG's website grants it small size and better accuracy, among other advantages.
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Posted: 2012-10-29 21:18
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^ ^ ^
So the Nexus 4 and the Optimus G are using different BIS sensors.
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On 2012-10-29 21:24:09, aurelius wrote:

On 2012-10-29 21:18:05, DACHA wrote:
^ ^ ^
So the Nexus 4 and the Optimus G are using different BIS sensors.


You have a link where can see that Optimus G doesn't have Sony BSI?

Just curious...


http://www.techradar.com/us/n[....]ave-worlds-best-camera-1096739

I would not post it without a link. The link is also in my previous post.
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Posted: 2012-10-29 21:33
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This is the LG promo video and it claims that the camera has LG Innotek technology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]=player_embedded&v=71Bh_OZZBUA

another source



http://www.anandtech.com/show/6303/hands-on-with-the-lg-optimus-g
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Posted: 2012-10-29 22:22
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On 2012-10-29 01:57:12, -XYZ wrote:

On 2012-10-28 21:24:58, Felimenta97 wrote:

On 2012-10-28 21:13:50, DACHA wrote:
Some more details and good news for Sony.

LG and Samsung put OLED TVs on hold http://www.whathifi.com/news/lg-and-samsung-put-oled-tvs-on-hold

-Contrast ratios are difficult to measure but Sony claims that photopic contrast (contrast measured under well lit conditions) is 3.5 times better than traditional and current LED backlit LCD TV panels.

-The 1.4 times better wide color gamut specification alludes to the benefits of being able to see more colors from the TV.

-But the biggest and badest specification difference in this display is the response time for video image processing. Sony claims that this Crystal LED TV is 10 times faster than what's out there right now. If that is true, there will be no motion lag, or jerky judder artifacts to speak of as well as incredible sports image processing.
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Ain't have Money for that.


Well according to rumours the CLED sets are supposedly only gonna be $4000 (unlikely to be honest, more like $6000-8000 at best) which would significantly undercut the monstrously expensive OLEDS.


That's a hell lot expensive.
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Posted: 2012-10-29 23:57
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On 2012-10-29 18:33:17, badassmam wrote:
Bit off topic but the Nexus 4 was just announced, that hardware at that price! Will Sony follow this or do we still expect the same high prices? Are the prices of these components starting to come down or is it simply a Google strategy?


Sony can't follow this because Google sells Nexus devices near- or at-cost.
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Posted: 2012-10-30 03:52
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On 2012-10-29 22:22:04, Felimenta97 wrote:
That's a hell lot expensive.


It's a completely brand new display tech that's supposedly better in every single way compared to current display techs... $4000 is a downright bargain when you consider how expensive new display technologies have always been. It's also an immense bargain when you compare it against similarly sized OLED displays and consider that large scale OLED TVs still seem to be a fair bit away from hitting mass produced volumes. Sony has a great opportunity with CLED, assuming the rumours about launch window and pricing are true, and assuming they can mass market it while other OLED manufacturers are floundering trying to perfect their tech.


On 2012-10-29 17:32:34, erge wrote:
Nanoco is a company which produces quantum dot materials. It's no secret that they have been collaborating with a major japanese corporation since 2009 as stated in their website. Are you suggesting that the Crystal LED is actually a nanocrystal technology? in other words quantum dot technology?

check out this post i made from april http://www.avsforum.com/t/1405411/sony-crystal-led-quantum-dot

My take on the bet is 6.9 million units btw.


Hey, nice to see ya! I read your other threads months ago and skim 'em every once in a while as I'm very hopeful about CLED.

Now the only thing that I don't think lines up is that in the articles by Nanoco, especially the one about procuding green QDs. Here's what it said:


The customer's intention is to combine the red and green quantum dots with blue LEDs to produce a highly efficient source of white light for multiple potential applications including backlighting for LCD displays and LED-based general lighting.


http://www.nanocotechnologies[....]or_Green_Quantum_Dots/342.aspx

It doesn't exactly sound like CLED there, but I suppose the quote could be off. It does certainly seem like it's pointing towards Sony being the customer in question and CLED being the tech it's being used for. I guess my next question is how well does this tech scale downwards? It seems like it can scale infinitely up if they're using the segmented display design that's been rumoured. I REALLY hope they can figure out a way to scale it down for practical use on phones and tablets as it'll blow OLED out of the water like it's apparently going to do on the TV front.

I just had a thought thought.... what if they eventually decide to replace movie theatre screens with CLED displays???? Picture it... a monsterous 40 foot screen entirely made from CLEDs. It could be an INSANELY high resolution, unless of course they build larger sized segments so that it can still be 8k UHD or something... the colours, the motion, and image quality would completely destroy anything currently in any theatres! Do away with projectors for good dangit!
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