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Miki69
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On 2012-09-26 09:29:01, marcink wrote:
How about camera quality? Same mediocre output as with xperia T?
Did you check 808 vs T shootout images above? 808 wins, but Xperia T has nothing to be ashamed of.
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Detox
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That is the best looking smartphone  . Oh, and nice looking TX as well  . Seriously, good job and congratulations on your purchase man! I hope you will enjoy it for a long time. In my opinion: V / TX > T, but the gap has become much smaller. I dare say, the coast is clear in China?
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randomuser
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Congratulations Ricky!! 
Awesome pics I must say, never seen the TX look more elegant. 
Play more with it and do post benchmarks too
Waiting for your detailed impressions and some camera samples. |
doministry
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Those shots by Xperia T look brilliant and they just loose detail to Nokia which obviously has much more pixels.
But - still those Xperia images are top notch.
That's why I ask - WHY those comparative shots on GSMArena are so terrible?!
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randomuser
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On 2012-09-26 11:04:48, doministry wrote:
Those shots by Xperia T look brilliant and they just loose detail to Nokia which obviously has much more pixels.
But - still those Xperia images are top notch.
That's why I ask - WHY those comparative shots on GSMArena are so terrible?!
Maybe GSMArena got a faulty unit ? 
Another positive review
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012[....]-much-bigger-and-a-bit-better/
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-09-26 10:52 ] |
marcink
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To me they look equally bad,or at least not good enough. No progress-same old oversharpening and chroma noise even with daylight shots. |
marcink
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Doministry, brilliant? Just look at the original photo. So much noise and oversharpeing even at low ISO:( It'a a little bit like 2011 xperia lineup, but somehow most of them are out of focus. Xperia P takes better shots. Mayve it's all due to different chipsets and some major cost cuts in late sony ericsson? But now its up to Sony to determine, if they want to sacrifice some of their camera sales and put much better picture processing into their 2013 lineup, or not. But Nokia, Apple, Samsung and others won't hesitate and will keep improving their cameras. Sony basically owns the cameraphone sensor business, but ot's a shame when others can squeeze much more from previous generation products than sony from their latest and greatest. On the other hand, I understand that this one runs on different chipsets and some problems need and can be ironed out with some future firmaware updates. It's probably a hard, transition period for Sony. Maybe from 2013 they will execute better? Just hope for some major improvement in Sony's picture processing, because HW is there. |
randomuser
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On 2012-09-26 14:59:46, marcink wrote:
Doministry, brilliant? Just look at the original photo. So much noise and oversharpeing even at low ISO:( It'a a little bit like 2011 xperia lineup, but somehow most of them are out of focus. Xperia P takes better shots. Mayve it's all due to different chipsets and some major cost cuts in late sony ericsson? But now its up to Sony to determine, if they want to sacrifice some of their camera sales and put much better picture processing into their 2013 lineup, or not. But Nokia, Apple, Samsung and others won't hesitate and will keep improving their cameras. Sony basically owns the cameraphone sensor business, but ot's a shame when others can squeeze much more from previous generation products than sony from their latest and greatest. On the other hand, I understand that this one runs on different chipsets and some problems need and can be ironed out with some future firmaware updates. It's probably a hard, transition period for Sony. Maybe from 2013 they will execute better? Just hope for some major improvement in Sony's picture processing, because HW is there.
Well even the person who conducted that comparison appreciated the quality of the T. And even some cheap compact cameras will seem unimpressive in front of the Pureview 808, T is just a smartphone. For what it is, the photos are very good. |
Calypso2012
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Any news about TX coming to europe? |
marcink
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Randomuser, I only comment what I see. The quality is definitely not there. ISO 50-100 shots shouldn't be full of noise.
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doministry
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On 2012-09-26 15:03:15, randomuser wrote:
On 2012-09-26 14:59:46, marcink wrote:
Doministry, brilliant? Just look at the original photo. So much noise and oversharpeing even at low ISO:( It'a a little bit like 2011 xperia lineup, but somehow most of them are out of focus. Xperia P takes better shots. Mayve it's all due to different chipsets and some major cost cuts in late sony ericsson? But now its up to Sony to determine, if they want to sacrifice some of their camera sales and put much better picture processing into their 2013 lineup, or not. But Nokia, Apple, Samsung and others won't hesitate and will keep improving their cameras. Sony basically owns the cameraphone sensor business, but ot's a shame when others can squeeze much more from previous generation products than sony from their latest and greatest. On the other hand, I understand that this one runs on different chipsets and some problems need and can be ironed out with some future firmaware updates. It's probably a hard, transition period for Sony. Maybe from 2013 they will execute better? Just hope for some major improvement in Sony's picture processing, because HW is there.
Well even the person who conducted that comparison appreciated the quality of the T. And even some cheap compact cameras will seem unimpressive in front of the Pureview 808, T is just a smartphone. For what it is, the photos are very good.
As I said many times before:
I don't get excited with zooming in every possible photo and studying hair in somebody's nose.
I don't print big scale posters from camera photos either.
What matters the most is the quality of the picture as a whole in reasonable size,
and in this regard X T photos look great even compared to Nokia which has so much more tech behind it's camera.
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doministry
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On 2012-09-26 11:24:33, randomuser wrote:
On 2012-09-26 11:04:48, doministry wrote:
Those shots by Xperia T look brilliant and they just loose detail to Nokia which obviously has much more pixels.
But - still those Xperia images are top notch.
That's why I ask - WHY those comparative shots on GSMArena are so terrible?!
Maybe GSMArena got a faulty unit ?
Another positive review
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012[....]-much-bigger-and-a-bit-better/
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-09-26 10:52 ]
Just wrote to them today about it!
It's unbelievable that the charts look so bad when other photos look so good.
EDIT:
From Gizmodo's review:
"We thought the camera was a bit rubbish, as our first few batches of shots turned out rather poor. But it was a fluff issue. The recessed lens is an incredible fluff-sucking vortex that’ll soon assimilate entire pairs of your trousers, and is rather difficult to get in to clean out. So you might want to start packing a few cotton buds in your wallet to wipe it out before snapping anything important."
It may be the issue!
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Bonovox
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Nice phone Ricky D and Sony phones have best designs for sure. Them camera pics are fine to me not perfect but put up a good fight against the Nokia. The T pics just looked more paler colors.
Phone?? What phone?? |
marcink
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Doministry, but there is no sense of going over 5 mpix then! But there is pinch zooming and people use it. Also looking at 100% crops makes it easier to compare. And sony looses big time there. |
doministry
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On 2012-09-26 17:21:47, marcink wrote:
Doministry, but there is no sense of going over 5 mpix then! But there is pinch zooming and people use it. Also looking at 100% crops makes it easier to compare. And sony looses big time there.
No.
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