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Dogmann
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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:14
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@sapporobaby,

That's not as bad as i was expecting and only 150 euros more than P1 which really makes the P1 look very expensive in comparison IMO.

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sapporobaby
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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:19
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On 2007-06-03 23:14:41, Dogmann wrote:
@sapporobaby,

That's not as bad as i was expecting and only 150 euros more than P1 which really makes the P1 look very expensive in comparison IMO.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-06-03 22:16 ]


Yup, and the fact that the E90 has sooooooooooooooooooo much more than just recycled technology.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*

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plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:29
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his name is Hxxxx Kxxxx (his wife name is Pxxx). my mother-in-law real surname is Vxxxx (Vxxxx is a big name up in the north Finland, called Kemppi). my grandfather (before he died) had several of millions in Nokia & Ericsson shares. he worked for Ericcson long, long time. (ha was in the Finnish winter war, and run away to Sweden), he also wrote o book about his life during the war against the sovjet.

ääähh, so what. up to me.,........

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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:30
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On 2007-06-03 23:29:07, plankgatan wrote:
his name is Heikki Koskinen (his wife name is Pikoli). my mother-in-law real surname is Vainio. my grandfather (before he died) had several of millions in Nokia & Ericsson shares. he worked for Ericcson long, long time. (ha was in the Finnish winter war, and run away to Sweden), he also wrote o book about his life during the war against the sovjet.


Dude, no personal info here. Next time put it in PM. Go back and delete your post.
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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:37
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sapporobaby, are you a Mod/admin or something, if you not, dont act like one.
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Posted: 2007-06-04 00:09
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On 2007-06-03 23:37:34, plankgatan wrote:
sapporobaby, are you a Mod/admin or something, if you not, dont act like one.



It is called being courteous so that people do not get YOUR personal information that you are making public. Seeing as you can not tell the difference. How about I report you for posting personal information of other people? I really thought for a moment that you might be simply uniformed but there is a word that starts with an "S" that comes to mind.
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plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-06-04 01:05
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here is the Nokia "boss" im talking about (my mother-in-laws family).
(the press release is some years ago, but he still working high up in Nokia).

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5458/namnlsid0.png

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Posted: 2007-06-04 01:47
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On 2007-06-04 01:05:36, plankgatan wrote:
here is the Nokia "boss" im talking about (my mother-in-laws family).
(the press release is some years ago, but he still working high up in Nokia).

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5458/namnlsid0.png

[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-06-04 00:07 ]


Great and where is all of this going? What is your point dude?
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Posted: 2007-06-04 05:31
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@Plankgatan
For God's sake dude, stop doing this to yourself
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Posted: 2007-06-04 08:45
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@plankgatan
what did all this information proove? that N95 sucks?
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Posted: 2007-06-04 08:59
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Rambling post after rambling post. Just the preverbal: "Nokia sucks". What a great and thought out argument from a supposed "almost 30 year old" with a child no less. Can anyone say therapy?

For the most party this has been a great thread with plenty of ideas of what SE and Nokia can do to create better phones and ensure customer demands. ALl of this was done without the "Nokia sucks" diatribes that come this way often from those with no real discussion skills.
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Posted: 2007-06-04 20:23
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On 2007-06-03 22:55:58, Dogmann wrote:
@londonlad123

If the P1 came with the things you mention even with out the GPS that would certainly of grabbed my attention. I really don't understand why as it is going to arrive 1 year after the initial UIQ3 devices it doesn't have a greatly improved spec as it is meant to be the next generation surely that is what it deserves and IMO would of put SE up there with their competition.

As yet no one is sure just how much the E90 will be but it is already in the coming soon section for 02 so will be available with contract. Just a shame no one on 02 will be using it with their insane Data charges. I am very likely to buy it from on 02 and then just debrand it and use it with my T-Mobile Web N Walk Sim.

Marc



If it didn't have gps it would still be behind, so you'd have to pay for it just like everyone would pay for it in a nokia.

The price for the e90 I've seen is £650+ (on foneplanet) and the lady in cpw suggested to me 700+.

I don't think many are willing to pay that kinda money for p1i with the spec I mentioned, not even the price that sap quoted.

Also the p1i is unlikely to cost 650 euros, one of the se people said similar price to p990 at launch apparently on a youtube vid and since its mass market that will fall too with supply, I'd guess and say around £350 soon after launch.

Anyway we'll see the prices for sure, soon enough.

@sap

You should provide a link for all the people that want an e90 at a cheap? £540, but personally I'd rather have a real computer and money to spare.
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Posted: 2007-06-04 21:33
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On 2007-06-04 20:23:38, londonlad123 wrote:

On 2007-06-03 22:55:58, Dogmann wrote:
@londonlad123

If the P1 came with the things you mention even with out the GPS that would certainly of grabbed my attention. I really don't understand why as it is going to arrive 1 year after the initial UIQ3 devices it doesn't have a greatly improved spec as it is meant to be the next generation surely that is what it deserves and IMO would of put SE up there with their competition.

As yet no one is sure just how much the E90 will be but it is already in the coming soon section for 02 so will be available with contract. Just a shame no one on 02 will be using it with their insane Data charges. I am very likely to buy it from on 02 and then just debrand it and use it with my T-Mobile Web N Walk Sim.

Marc



If it didn't have gps it would still be behind, so you'd have to pay for it just like everyone would pay for it in a nokia.

The price for the e90 I've seen is £650+ (on foneplanet) and the lady in cpw suggested to me 700+.

I don't think many are willing to pay that kinda money for p1i with the spec I mentioned, not even the price that sap quoted.

Also the p1i is unlikely to cost 650 euros, one of the se people said similar price to p990 at launch apparently on a youtube vid and since its mass market that will fall too with supply, I'd guess and say around £350 soon after launch.

Anyway we'll see the prices for sure, soon enough.

@sap

You should provide a link for all the people that want an e90 at a cheap? £540, but personally I'd rather have a real computer and money to spare.


www.maifon.net/ ---- do a search on the 3G links and it will come up.
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/ ---- do a search for the E90
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Dogmann
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Posted: 2007-06-04 21:48
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@londonlad123

That may be the price that the P990 dropped quite quickly to owing to it's problems but the launch price was closer to £600 and SE has said it will cost the same as the P990 on launch. So the quoted suggested retail price which has come form someone that has had a preview unit and very well established contacts within SE of 650 euros or approx £450 is very realistic IMO i seriously doubt it will launch as low as £350 but only time will tell and not long to wait either way.


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plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-06-04 22:37
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you guys missunderstand me (im not trying to brag). he ask me something about Nokia and Finland, i just answered his dame question. it was just some off topic crap. (i thought it could be little fun, to tell your guys that my daughters mother has a Nokia boss in her family....... like i said, im not caring about it, i just thought it would be litttle fun). by the way, im still thinking that N95 is a really crappy phone............






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