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NimmyxHuynh
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On 2008-09-10 22:56:24, WhyBe wrote:
@Nimmyxhuynh:
The difference is the video recording.
X1a: records at QVGA(320x240)--24fps--no h.264
X1i: records at VGA(640x480)--30fps--h.264@15fps
also:
the supported HSPA (3G) frequencies are different: X1i has a 900MHz band instead of an 850MHz band (X1a)
X1i: (900/1900/2100)
X1a: (850/1900/2100)
1900MHz is the prevalent 3G band for AT&T U.S. but they also use 850MHz in some places also (This is the risk of getting the X1i in the U.S.--you may lose 3G capability in parts of the country).
I believe the different processors dictate the differences in video, but, I don't think the processor affects which frequencies are supported. Someone correct if wrong.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-09-10 22:12 ]
I wish I was rich enough to buy both versions of the phone to utilize all 100% of the Xperia X1 capabilities. xD
T-Mobile uses 1700MHz right? if so, then the X1 can be used in the US under T-Mobile (as you can tell, I have T-Mobile).
but that sucks "X1a: records at QVGA(320x240)--24fps--no h.264"
Why the low screen size? | |
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Arne Anka
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On 2008-09-10 23:01:25, moogoo wrote:
just did the conversion from the amazon.de price for X1 and its $975 US Dollars... ouch.
894 USD in Sweden. |
max_wedge
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@mooboo, you can unlock a WM phone by paying the operator. Generally WM phones don't get a lot of branding and can easily be restored to vanila WM.
I'm a bit concerned about which X1 we will get in Australia. The UMTS network with substantially better covereage here than others (next g) operates on 850 - so we will have a choice of an X1 and normal coverage + VGA recording, or a "Next G" capable X1 with qvga recording! 
Bugger!
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pinguino1
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On 2008-09-10 16:53:44, WhyBe wrote:
What happened to the Diamond already? That looks like an enhanced Diamond.
@Boinng:
I was refering to any phone that is not the X1.
Yeah. A diamond killer?
The tallest phone?
the widest phone?
How you gonna carry that?
No real querty?
Nicer camera. ok but where is the innovation here?
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l337h1um
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I'm a bit concerned about which X1 we will get in Australia. The UMTS network with substantially better covereage here than others (next g) operates on 850 - so we will have a choice of an X1 and normal coverage + VGA recording, or a "Next G" capable X1 with qvga recording!
Bugger!
DUDE ARE YOU SERIOUS!? That blows!
AAGGGHH I am ruined!! 
In case you can't tell, I'm Aussie too
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max_wedge
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I think so. The x1a may not work on Next G anyway, in which case we'll only have the option of the X1i.
I'm not too worried - to date I still haven't used the next g network. I'm also not a big fan of telstra - always more expensive for less than anyone else.
But it would be typical if we did have to choose between the two limit options 
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WhyBe
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On 2008-09-10 23:39:16, NimmyxHuynh wrote:
I wish I was rich enough to buy both versions of the phone to utilize all 100% of the Xperia X1 capabilities. xD
T-Mobile uses 1700MHz right? if so, then the X1 can be used in the US under T-Mobile (as you can tell, I have T-Mobile).
Yes, you can use the X1 on T-Mobile, but, you'll get no 3G service of course.
but that sucks "X1a: records at QVGA(320x240)--24fps--no h.264"
Why the low screen size?
Has something to do with patent infringement in the U.S. The X1i isn't subject to those restrictions. Any phone with the 7201 has those restrictions. |
WhyBe
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On 2008-09-10 17:17:59, aksd wrote:
On 2008-09-10 16:53:44, WhyBe wrote:
What happened to the Diamond already? That looks like an enhanced Diamond.
Outdated my friend......out dated  . Screen is upwards of 3.2in it seems. More like 3.5. 5Mpx no flash, 1350mah battery. Looks great imo. Oh how I wish I was rich , what the hell am I supposed to do with my E71 now
@aksd, you are a phone crackhead. Can't you just decide on one phone? First the Omnia, then the E71, now this Diamond replacement. Just get the X1i so you can be yet another individual to support my earlier stated theory on X1 lust. |
max_wedge
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patent infringement! What a joke - so much for the great american belief in competition - "no you can't use VGA recording, someone has already patented it"
(actually it's probably more obscure an infringement than that, but you get my point)
I might try and patent something myself, like say the wheel... Then any one who wants to put wheels on stuff has to pay me royalities! Yeah baby, make me rich!
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NimmyxHuynh
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On 2008-09-11 05:08:20, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-09-10 23:39:16, NimmyxHuynh wrote:
I wish I was rich enough to buy both versions of the phone to utilize all 100% of the Xperia X1 capabilities. xD
T-Mobile uses 1700MHz right? if so, then the X1 can be used in the US under T-Mobile (as you can tell, I have T-Mobile).
Yes, you can use the X1 on T-Mobile, but, you'll get no 3G service of course.
but that sucks "X1a: records at QVGA(320x240)--24fps--no h.264"
Why the low screen size?
Has something to do with patent infringement in the U.S. The X1i isn't subject to those restrictions. Any phone with the 7201 has those restrictions.
Well then!
I guess the X1i is the best choice, since it also utilizes the 1700MHz range as well AND 3G network.
Alright, expansys.com will be adding me to their pre-order list hahaha.
Thanks dude! |
WhyBe
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On 2008-09-11 05:13:21, max_wedge wrote:
I might try and patent something myself, like say the wheel... Then any one who wants to put wheels on stuff has to pay me royalities! Yeah baby, make me rich!
@max_wedge
You're thinking small. I'm going to patent the color blue...
On 2008-09-11 05:16:47, NimmyxHuynh wrote:
Well then!
I guess the X1i is the best choice, since it also utilizes the 1700MHz range as well AND 3G network.
 Noooo. Hold on! There is no 1700MHz on any of the X1's (T-Mobile's 3G frequency). Read my posts carefully. I recommend you, at least, switch to AT&T to get 3G on the X1's.
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aksd
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On 2008-09-11 05:11:47, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-09-10 17:17:59, aksd wrote:
On 2008-09-10 16:53:44, WhyBe wrote:
What happened to the Diamond already? That looks like an enhanced Diamond.
Outdated my friend......out dated . Screen is upwards of 3.2in it seems. More like 3.5. 5Mpx no flash, 1350mah battery. Looks great imo. Oh how I wish I was rich , what the hell am I supposed to do with my E71 now
@aksd, you are a phone crackhead. Can't you just decide on one phone? First the Omnia, then the E71, now this Diamond replacement. Just get the X1i so you can be yet another individual to support my earlier stated theory on X1 lust.
I wish I could  , if I could just afford it, if I knew it would release in September would have waited lol. And whats even more painful is I'm arriving at the UK on the 28th , damn it all
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WhyBe
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On 2008-09-11 05:56:54, aksd wrote:
I wish I could , if I could just afford it, if I knew it would release in September would have waited lol. And whats even more painful is I'm arriving at the UK on the 28th , damn it all
If you add the price of all the phones you have purchased or intend to purchase soon, getting the X1 should be no problem  Certainly the combined price of the Omnia and the E71 could afford you a shiny new Xperia X1. |
NimmyxHuynh
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On 2008-09-11 05:16:47, NimmyxHuynh wrote:
Well then!
I guess the X1i is the best choice, since it also utilizes the 1700MHz range as well AND 3G network.
Noooo. Hold on! There is no 1700MHz on any of the X1's (T-Mobile's 3G frequency). Read my posts carefully. I recommend you, at least, switch to AT&T to get 3G on the X1's.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-09-11 04:56 ]
I thought it does have 1700 though.
Expansys:
Network Quad Band GSM 850/900/1800/1900 + EDGE
3G UMTS 850/900/1700/1900/2100 + HSDPA/HSUPA
mobilecityonline:
Availability and versions
Networks
* GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
* UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA 900/1700/1900/2100 MHz
* UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz |
aksd
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On 2008-09-11 05:59:56, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-09-11 05:56:54, aksd wrote:
I wish I could , if I could just afford it, if I knew it would release in September would have waited lol. And whats even more painful is I'm arriving at the UK on the 28th , damn it all
If you add the price of all the phones you have purchased or intend to purchase soon, getting the X1 should be no problem Certainly the combined price of the Omnia and the E71 could afford you a shiny new Xperia X1.
Ermm.....I did'nt get the Omnia, I bought the E71 instead. I've got the HTC TyTn II and E71 at the moment . E71 was like half the price of the X1, I thought if the X1 is out Nov or later its really not worth it, might as well use the E71 till early next year . Anyway let me wait till you guinea pigs buy your X1's first, may sell TyTn II and E71 if its going to be worth it.
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