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Archdragoon
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Posted: 2018-04-08 11:49
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Ugh... well... so Xperia flagship will never give good selfie result as it isn't selfie centric phone ?
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Moe87
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Posted: 2018-04-08 11:53
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Thanks...

If the phones in some areas cost much more than the price they sell in North America, Western Europe and Eastern Asia, aren't they supposed to earn a very good money per unit like Apple?

From Sony e-store: if you convert to US dollar

XA 2016 = $192
XA1 = $ 440
XA1+ = $ 576
XA1U = $631
XZ1 = $1042
XZP = $1097

No Xperia 2018 is available yet.


They just decide to do same of others. Best selfie of Samsung ( A8/A8+), Asus ( zen4 selfie Pro), Motorola ( G6 will have 16MP, while Z3 series will have 8MP) . All midranges.
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Posted: 2018-04-08 12:56
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I am sorry Jo,I trust you and your sources yes, but I really have to say that you are being a dick.. It's the truth.. You were a dick to me when I first came here and said that according to my sources only xz2 and compact would be released.. All of you laughed and made a joke of me.. But I think whatever spek says is true! I MEAN HE DID GIVE SOME INFO.. First the schematics, then all about the camera and all.. Let's call just believe him for once, shall we? There is only one Nodar here, and he is Nodar.. No need to call others Nodar..

✌ peace..
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Posted: 2018-04-08 13:00
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On 2018-04-08 11:49:34, Archdragoon wrote:
Ugh... well... so Xperia flagship will never give good selfie result as it isn't selfie centric phone ?


I'd say we would have to wait for the Premium to know. It could be that the XZ2 front camera was neutered so the Premium could have a better camera, or not. Until that phone makes an appearance we just don't know.



On 2018-04-08 12:56:39, Madmiraj_- wrote:
I am sorry Jo,I trust you and your sources yes, but I really have to say that you are being a dick.. It's the truth.. You were a dick to me when I first came here and said that according to my sources only xz2 and compact would be released.. All of you laughed and made a joke of me.. But I think whatever spek says is true! I MEAN HE DID GIVE SOME INFO.. First the schematics, then all about the camera and all.. Let's call just believe him for once, shall we? There is only one Nodar here, and he is Nodar.. No need to call others Nodar..

✌ peace..


Agreed. Like I said to Spek earlier, we'll have to wait to see if any of his info pans out, and we have been burned by many "insiders" before, but on the surface he seems like he's trying to be honest with us. He's supporting his arguments with evidence, so just for now I say give him the benefit of the doubt.
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X350
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Posted: 2018-04-08 15:30
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Speaker test P20Pro vs S9+ vs XZ2

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Posted: 2018-04-08 15:51
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On 2018-04-08 11:53:08, Moe87 wrote:
Thanks...

If the phones in some areas cost much more than the price they sell in North America, Western Europe and Eastern Asia, aren't they supposed to earn a very good money per unit like Apple?

[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-04-08 10:54 ]



Yes, they are. Their ASP (Average Selling Price) is very high, second only to Apple.
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Moe87
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Posted: 2018-04-08 16:16
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Alvin, but how can the Mobile still lose money?

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Posted: 2018-04-08 16:25
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On 2018-04-08 15:30:26, X350 wrote:
Speaker test P20Pro vs S9+ vs XZ2

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[ This Message was edited by: X350 on 2018-04-08 14:52 ]



Wow Sony FTW ~
vivftp
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Posted: 2018-04-08 16:44
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On 2018-04-08 15:30:26, X350 wrote:
Speaker test P20Pro vs S9+ vs XZ2

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The P20 Pro was much too tinny. The S9+ was easily the loudest. I was trying to figure out whether the S9+ or XZ2 was better on the clarity front, but the limited musical selection and the relatively crappy mic used in the review made it hard to judge.
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Posted: 2018-04-08 16:45
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On 2018-04-08 16:16:25, Moe87 wrote:
Alvin, but how can the Mobile still lose money?



That's because no one buys their phones. Yes, they have an average selling price that is high, but there are so many unsold phones that have been shipped and other problems too, they could lose so much money from that.

From what I've known, ASP = revenue divided by the number of units shipped, so they earned so much because of how high the phones are priced and most people that buys a Sony phone, were high-end products.

(If there's something wrong with what I've said here, please let me know)
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Posted: 2018-04-08 17:02
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Does anyone know if Qualcomm really plans to bring the overclocked version of 845?

I read an article that said about it, that Sony might have it.
Because one benchmark ( those we dont know if is real or fake) had multicore of almost 8700.
The base frequency is 1.97GHz instead of 1.77 like XZ2.

Now another article that says Pixel 3 has SD846.
Also camera with DRAM.
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vivftp
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Posted: 2018-04-08 17:20
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I'm going to have to imagine that Sony will up their DRAM game on the new camera module. I can't see them having the same amount of memory as last years module.

It would be nice if they also improved the software to match.
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Posted: 2018-04-08 18:14
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I do not think that they increase the capacity of DRAM memory this year. DRAM memories are very expensive, they would have to double the capacity to get double the time.
I think the current priority is to implement the Fusion ISP which is much more promising than simply improving a function that already exists.

I hope I'm wrong and that they include the ISP and 2GB of DRAM, but it will not be an expectation for me.
josephnero
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Posted: 2018-04-08 18:43
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Well the current is 1gb (I could be wrong) and yes I meant gigabit. Don't think they would go for 2GB
vivftp
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Posted: 2018-04-08 18:47
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I wonder how that would work with the dual cam. The DRAM has to be built into the sensor for the fast read/write, no? Well would each sensor of the dual cam have its own DRAM that that could work in tandem? Or would only 1 sensor get it?
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