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razec
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For now 64Bit is nothing but gimmick, what good is a hardware without software that would run on top of it? it'll take a little while before the devs start writing 64Bit apps for the PlayStore. Besides the 64Bit Android at its infancy will worsen the platform fragmentation. I'm no IT analyst but I think even if 64Bit chips start launching next year it'll take another year before the market is fully ready to embrace the new platform.
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Xajel
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@amirprog, very low chance... while almost all SoC are working on 64bit, only Samsung will have it first... and Sony doesn't use Samsung SoC..
Sony uses Qualcomm and MediaTek now... Both are working already on 64bit chips, but my guess is that MediaTek might be the first as they just use the same ARM designs which is already ready and used ( Apple is already using a modified ARM design )...
For High-ends, only Qualcomm is where you need to look.. and I can't see any info on having a 1H14 release of any 64bit SoC from Qualcomm... they will have an improved Krait platform nothing more ( from the CPU side, GPU side will go higher to 400 series ), But I don't know anything about 2H14 for Qualcomm...
When Apple announced their A7 64bit SoC as the first 64bit mobile SoC, a Qualcomm guy said it's just a gimmick and useless... but after that another respond was better as you can read between the word that Qualcomm are already working on 64bit for a future products... but that should be another arch. than Krait...
For me, 64bit SoC is just something good if you need to keep your phone for 2+ years... and believe me Apple moved to 64bit not because they need now, but because they're preparing them selfs and the developers for a future product where they will need to go higher and higher ( in RAM and performance )... they want the transition be very easy and seamless...
For Android, moving to 64bit now is for high-end devices only where some devices are targeting 3GB+ of RAM and this is because of the nature of multitasking in Android ( that's why Android needs more RAM than iOS ).. so for 2014 we actually might start needing 64bit...
Apple need it now to make the transition in the future seamless and easy for developers and gurantee the compatibility on older devices in the future. imagine iPhone 7 you might have some apps that are 64bit only, then 64bit apps only will be able to work on iPhone 5S also...
Android needs it in 2014 because we need 4GB+ in high-end phones and tablets, I guess Android will have a native side by side apps feature like Samsung phones in a future update, maybe even Android 5.0 where the UI should have a major change ( the jump in the version number between 2 to 3 to 4 always faced a major UI and API change that forced a lot of apps to be rewritten for the new UI/API, and this is will happen again with Android 5.0 jumping from Android 4.x )
And currently the multitasking nature of Android is flying and needs more RAM, how about later when it have native side by side loading of apps ? but I hope manufacturers know this and ready everything to make the transition easy and fast... We don't want our latest 2013 flagships be incompatible with Android 5.0 because they have only 2GB of RAM !! or because they're 32bit SoC...
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amirprog
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@Xajel
Nice explanation, apple and samsung battle each other on the top.
i think that sony will announce the next flagship as soon as possible so they have a good time frame to announce a 64 bit flagship before the end of 2014, if qualcomm will have one to supply them. i don't think that sony will announce the next flagship in April like some rumors say. |
itsjustJOH
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Sony CEO to kickoff CES 2014 with keynote speech
"Sony might not be displaying any more phones like the Xperia S and Xperia Z at CES. Earlier this year, we were told exclusively by a tipster that Sony will no longer present flagship phones at the show. This is apparently all part of the Japanese based manufacturer's campaign to prevent leaks by tightening up the rules on who can handle a prototype device."
Not sure about PA's "tipster", though. 
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goldenface
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What about Mobile World Congress? I'd be really surprised if they didn't show up there.
In a way it's good that they're taking steps to limit the amount of leaks, I supposed they do damage their marketing efforts.
But for our rumours thread, we'll just have to work harder at snooping around. However, it's nice when Sony does completely surprise us with a new Xperia. The Xperia V was a nice surprise, for instance.
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amirprog
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From: Israel
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I put my money on:
CES: Tablet Z1
MWC: Z2 (with recent rumored specs, 5.2 inch IPS LCD from Sharp or LG, etc)
July, own show (same as Z Ultra announcement time): Z2 Ultra (with JDI 6.2 inch display)
IFA: Z3 (with 64 bit, JDI WRBG OLED 5.2 inch)
and let's not forget the mini version, same announcement time as this year, first in japan, then international.
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goldenface
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^ That's probably how I'd imagine it to be, along with a few other surprise announcements. I think they should broaden their tablet range and introduce smaller versions of the Xperia tablet.
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itsjustJOH
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They need to produce a 7" and an 8" tablet that would compete with the price of the iPad mini or even the Nexus tablets. The Tablet Z was nicely specced but the price is too high for a tablet. Face it, tablets are never meant to compete with laptops. The Tablet Z is priced the same as some mid-range laptops, so why spend money on something less capable unless you have the luxury.
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-XYZ
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Simply can't compete with the Nexus 7 on a price front. Not a chance. May as well stick to the larger, high-margin side of the tablet sector. |
amirprog
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@itsjustJOH
Agreed on the screen size. i think that such device will fit for CES announcement.
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kewsvnet
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so has anyone got any idea regarding international Z1f / Honami mini??? |
goldenface
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On 2013-11-04 13:19:21, itsjustJOH wrote:
The Tablet Z is priced the same as some mid-range laptops, so why spend money on something less capable unless you have the luxury.
Portability is a big factor.
Are there any laptops as light and thin as the Tablet Z with a similar sized screen and battery life? I doubt it.
As for the price, well it's a luxury item but I've seen it on Google Shopping for £340 for the cheapest version. Making it not much more expensive than a good mid-range mobile phone.
If, there is a Tablet Z1 then this would be even thinner and lighter.
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itsjustJOH
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@XYZ Well, they're not going anywhere with their premium priced tablets. We all know the Nexii's prices are subsidized by Google, but only on some region. Here, where it's not subsidized, the current Nexus 7 is around 300-350 USD which is a little below the last gen iPad mini. For a well-specced tablet and compared to less capable budget tablets like Samsung's, it's very competitively priced. But I doubt Sony could do that right now, considering their current status.
As for their new flagship not being announced on CES, I guess they are waiting for the new gen Snapdragons just like what Samsung and HTC did this year.
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-XYZ
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In that case, they need to make their tablets seem really desirable. And not in the standard way. It needs to be something that makes people salivate by looking at it. Y'know? Something that invokes the Sony of the past, that was king of the electronics industry, something that's irresistible. |
itsjustJOH
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That could be the premium one. Then, there should be a budget one, like Xperia U and P to Xperia S. That's a good example since U and P sold well, especially U. Less specced, probably cut off the water and dust resistance, dumb down the camera or no camera at all (sorry, tablet "photographers"), or a fatter body. They just need an entry to the mini tablet war.
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