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Nokia Lumia 920 PureView Thread |
admad
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Pretty mediocre photos. If I bought my PureView phone, and it would be taking this kind of pictures (look at the blur on car registration) I would be mad.
https://qp24mw.blu.livefilest[....]Arc/WP_20121109%202.jpg?psid=1
On the other hand, it produces fantastic videos. Must be practically the only real advantage of OIS here.
And really, what is wrong with people these days? Doing reviews of photos and posting them in LAME resolution like 0.3MP (640x480), while they want the highest PPI possible, we now have phones with 2MP resolution on screen, so it's very f*cking lame to post photos in 0.3 MP resolution, I mean wtf. Even videos they post on YouTube are on much higher resolution (2MP). When I have to watch video to have a better look at camera pics quality that's really low. And now with the Nexus 10 coming, which happen to have mind-blowing 4MP resolution screen, I would excpect all sites to post much higher resolution pics, but noooooooo, let's post low resolution photos.
This is how thoose "amazing" amsterdam pics would look fullscreen on Nexus 10, it's ridicolous! How about post pics in higher resolution please 
P.S Yes, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed
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TeeGee
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On 2012-11-10 10:30:27, admad wrote:
Pretty mediocre photos. If I bought my PureView phone, and it would be taking this kind of pictures (look at the blur on car registration) I would be mad.
 This is not the PureView phone, some PureView technology has been used, but the one and only PureView phone is the Nokia 808 PureView.
Live and let live, how hard can it be ?
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Bonovox
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@admad,did you not read that there will be a software update to improve daytime shots. Nokia has realised this and for some odd reason the same thing happened to the 800/900 etc when first released,the photos came out poor. But they improved with an update  @Gauralhos,yes great review. @admad,I couldn't get out the wrong side of the bed in the morning. My bed is against the wall 
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Bonovox
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@Guarulhos can you send me a PM?? Wanna have a chat  Don't worry just wanna keep the peace. Thanks.
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cu015170
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The pics from the pureviewclub can be seen at full resolution of flickr .. you just have to click view original.
But yes, I've been saying that since they posted the white paper on "phase 2" .. there was no way we will see anything special.. not with those tiny pixels. It takes average looking photos, a little better at night, and good videos with HAAC mics to help the sound recording. Overall, still a better camera package then most of its competitors.
Its like those new Exmor RS stacked sensors from Sony.. 1.1 micron pixels, and they have everybody excited about the quality they will be producing, but in reality it will be mediocre just like all the other 1.1 micron pixel cameras.
I feel like "OIS" was a side project that was supposed to be added to the main PureView PRO (maybe with a 20Mpix sensor) technology at one point, but they ran out of time because everyone was screaming about a pureview windows phone, and made into a separate project and called it "phase 2" of the pureview tech..
I think its a mistake to call it PureView, because there is nothing PURE about the pictures its produces.. it makes perfect sense on the 808 because the pixels are "pure" thanks to the oversampling algorithms..
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Bonovox
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Am starting again with all my photos. Have some stunning autumn pics to upload later with my Lumia 800. Can get good pics behind most cameras 
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cu015170
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808, that is full auto.. I am 100% sure that the 808 can produce a better photograph than this with a bit of manual input.
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Bonovox
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Who took the top one?? It looks awful but have seen better than that on the 920,something tells me they don't know what they are doing 
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false_morel
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On 2012-11-10 18:33:52, cu015170 wrote:
808, that is full auto.. I am 100% sure that the 808 can produce a better photograph than this with a bit of manual input.
The 920 hit the right exposure. How would you do it on the 808?
Boost the ISO? Slower SS?
I don't get it why we haven't got one right comparison yet!!
Not one single comparison that is right!!
We only got both phones on auto! But weaking with the phones in any of these comparisons and comparing them to the auto captures.
Neither the AAS did it nor the PureView club! Why? It's beyond me!
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cu015170
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^ Marc from the PureView club played around with the settings on the 920 to get the right exposure.. it overexposes at times, just like that shot above your post.
http://pureviewclub.com/2012/7483
"It looks like the place is exploding with light! Since this proved to be a bit too much, I changed the settings of the Lumia 920 to capture a bit less light – putting the exposure value on -1. Than you already get a much better result – and more true to reality, not as “yellowish” as in the first attempt with the Nokia 808."
He has the -1 exposure value posted as well, it looks much better than the auto mode shot.
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false_morel
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Those photos still don't tell much!
He didn't tweak with the 808 although he had it on creative mode. And didn't tweak with the 920! Playing the exposure compensation is really tweaking.
He could get to night mode where the Lumia hits a whole of 1 second SS, and lower the ISO manually if the Lumia doesn't do it itself or if i doesn't go up to 1 second.
This would be the full potential of the 920!
Instead of having 1/3s and 800 ISO, have 1 sec an 200 ISO..
Then, in some of those photos, the lighting is very tricky that no camera would get it right without tweaking. The 808 and other smartphones underexpose in these low tricky light situations anyway.. And in other moderate tricky light situations all cameras need tweaking. Mainly adjusting the white balance and the exposure.
As to the overexposure thingy with the 920, these are not overexposed per se!
It depends what one needs from those photos.
Night photography is a very tricky and complicated field in photography! And one always has to go for a compromise! One can't get it all at night! Well unless one uses HDR but even this method has its big limitations, specially at night.
So the photographer really needs to know what he's going for.
But anyway, for a smartphone it's just about some point and shoot photo at the end. No need to go all pro here. The settings are very limited despite the 920's longer exposures..
I'll be getting my 920 next week. Hopefully on Monday or Tuesday. Can't wait to test and push it to its full potential. |
hihihans
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All that comparing leads to nothing. Sometimes you can get rid of that yellow by moving your camera one inch. I regular get two total different shots even if I take them right after eachother. I know I'm not much of a photographer but I do know that every camera needs to be treated different to get the most out of it. With my SE phones I always had it on Macro, even for long distance shots. I have a Nokia now and noticed that Macro only works at around 50cm.
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Bonovox
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Yes,for me I rarely even use auto
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Bonovox
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This is so fake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBqE_McY4n4&feature=fvwp&NR=1
And look at this one as a concept
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PaTtN5DrZ0&feature=related
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cu015170
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More daytime and close up from Marc here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pureviewclub/sets/72157631951601848/
Here is a nice set of low light shots:
https://skydrive.live.com/?ci[....]EA2E&id=B800BDC7AE96EA2E%21105
The flash was used couple of times, it seems bright for an LED, but still way off the benchmark. |
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