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| obentou Joined: Sep 19, 2005
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 | Excellent work vudu, I am just doing a couple of shots with your camdriver... looks absolutely great! | 
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| HaRRiKiRi Joined: Jul 12, 2008
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 | Also, where exactly is the newest kopritis driver? The first post is empty and no link or change log. I have 2.7 version and I found were to download 2.71, but I would want to know whats the changlog for that. Also, some say something about 3.5 kopritis driver.. where tha hell can you find that? | 
| Goldmen Joined: Oct 07, 2007
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On 2008-07-13 23:34:34, HaRRiKiRi wrote:
 Also, where exactly is the newest kopritis driver? The first post is empty and no link or change log. I have 2.7 version and I found were to download 2.71, but I would want to know whats the changlog for that. Also, some say something about 3.5 kopritis driver.. where tha hell can you find that?
 
 
 
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| vudu70 Joined: Apr 15, 2008
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 Thanks Goldmen!
   
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| HaRRiKiRi Joined: Jul 12, 2008
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 | Ou sorry, I had something mixed up. I have 3.7 and I download 3.71. Not 2.7 and 2.71. Thou I would like to know the changes in 3.71 so I know if I need to update the 3.7 driver. I don't want to do it because its kind of slow for me, so if there is something good in it then I will probably do it. 
 Again, about the software thing. If phone can't compress 320x240 then maybe software can? Just make it capture pics at VGA quality and codec it separately in software. It should be possible. And thus, even 2mp and 3mp quality should be possible (thou it would be an overkill because phones cpu isn't that fast), but VGA could be possible. Can somebody confirm that this is possible?
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| dngeorgiev Joined: Jul 20, 2008
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 | Please provide me with the latest version of the Original K800i Cam Driver, I think I am done with the moded ones, I just need the latest original. 
 Thank you!
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| Goldmen Joined: Oct 07, 2007
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 | dngeorgiev Latest original versions for K790/K800/K810 are Evita 2.5 or Wilma 2.5
 They are identical,the title is only difference.
 You can find `em here:
 http://www.4shared.com/dir/8231422/46177328/Original.html
 
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| dngeorgiev Joined: Jul 20, 2008
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 | Is there a Cam driver, which has got no 'super mode', I just need finer point and shoot settings, I would like to use all of the shoot and scenes modes as I do on the original one, I do not need more functionality, just some fine settings of the standard modes. | 
| Goldmen Joined: Oct 07, 2007
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On 2008-08-07 12:39:57, dngeorgiev wrote:
 Is there a Cam driver, which has got no 'super mode', I just need finer point and shoot settings, I would like to use all of the shoot and scenes modes as I do on the original one, I do not need more functionality, just some fine settings of the standard modes.
 
 May be this one:
 http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=165805&start=0
 
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| czaki91 Joined: Jul 30, 2008
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 | I tested 5 camdriver: ALL auto mode Raiderski 6.3.3
 
   N1 3.05 SM
 
   Goldmix 2.51
 
   Withan V3 Rev1
 
   Vudu 4.41
 
   Wow Vudu70 your driver is awesome Simple but powerful. For me THE BEST in indoor and low light conditions scenes !! THX for your work and i waiting for new ver.
 
 
 
 
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| Goldmen Joined: Oct 07, 2007
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On 2008-08-13 12:01:42, czaki91 wrote:
 It's funny:
 Raiderski and Withan have ~70kb
 Goldmix and N1 have ~260kb
 
 It`s most likely because of the difference in JPEG compression settings...
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| czaki91 Joined: Jul 30, 2008
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 | yes but biggest size=more quality ?? | 
| Goldmen Joined: Oct 07, 2007
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On 2008-08-13 12:28:05, czaki91 wrote:
 yes but biggest size=more quality ??
 
 It`s not necessary...
 But in most cases could be cause for bigger noise or camera crashes...
 Raiderski`s explanation of JPEG compression:
 
 
 
On 2008-07-30 23:56:05, Raiderski wrote:
 SE phones are equipped in very nice algorithm and great feature - variable compression. it is seeking the best quality % level. question: seeking? yes, this means that quality of all your pictures can be different (therefore name is variable compression). question: so, what for is 91% quality defined in driver? well, this is nothing more than simple tip for the algorithm, in this way it knows where to start process of seeking. question: ok, it knows where to start but where it ends? it's trying to predict jpeg file size with various combinations of quality % levels. predicted file size is then compared to jpeg file size rules (defined by modders in driver). if comparision will be positive then jpeg can be created, otherwise quality % level is increased (if predicted result is below defined file size rules) or decreased (if predicted result is above defined file size rules) for next file size prediction. question: does this means that defined file size rules in driver are major parameters? yes, they are, quality % level will be adequate to max file size we want to have. you can set in driver quality 100% but in fact this level of quality is unreachable in 900kb file (you can check this with EXIF readers). question: no matter of what can I set quality 100%? yes you can but for what? this is only initial stress for compression algorithm and it will blow out into dust your dreams about 100% quality
 my observations:
 - average file size is ~820kb (many folders, more than 100 files in each folder)
 - average file size of shots with flash or low detailed scenery is ~680kb
 so, I can push the rules a bit higher in next version. top quality range 90 - 95% in cameraphone? madness! with SE you guys are really in jpeg's compression heaven even if you don't believe    
 
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| Raiderski Joined: Jul 03, 2006
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 | well, if you want to compare you must assure very similar conditions especially when your scene have wide range of luminosity (very bright window and dark room in your case). look at photos - the are taken from different positions and angles. why is this so much important? because this kind of divergences have major influence on autofocus and on autoexposure when luminosity range is very wide (like on your scene). different autoexposure levels will give you different results. small example... 
 two pics merged, as you can see they are really different
 
   
 sorry but your test isn't authoritative
 
 EDIT: why picture from Vudu is the best? because very bright spot from window is smallest on this picture. less overexposure = more details in dark parts of the picture
 
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| czaki91 Joined: Jul 30, 2008
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 | Raiderski please talk to me Polish my English is bad ;/ 
 Mniejsze "przepalenie" zdjecia tak tylko ja nie wiem jak w twoim sterowniku ustawic zeby nie bylo tego przepalenia. Które parametry jak ustawić ??
 
 Vudu dla mnie wygrał ponieważ na auto mode dobiera najlepiej parametry (tak mi się wydaje)
 
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