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Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 discussion |
Peio
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Hi
I don't know anything about programmation on WinMo, but with SE panels SDK released, does it mean the panels could be ported on other WM phones? | |
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WhyBe
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I think the panels are a great idea, but not for technical reasons. The whole concept of a panel is very catchy and consumer friendly. Download panels, buy panels, make your own panels, quickly access a panel, etc. Yes, shorcuts and app launchers aren't new, but there is no community surrounding them like SE is doing with X-panels.
SE has taken a smart step and went further than just providing a great piece of hardware in the X1. They are trying to create an ecosystem like Apple has created for it's products. This ecosystem is what endears a lot of customers that aren't die-hard smartphone geeks (complement  ). The ecosystem creates an appeal that is greater than any one of it's particular products. So having a panel developing community and the PlayNow service goes a long way to adding value to what is essentially just another WM phone. This out-of-box added value should give SE a slight edge in appeal to mainstream consumers. Whether they will be successful or not, only time will tell--but I think SE is on the right track with the panel concept. |
goldenface
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From: Liverpool City Centre
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Good post! The youtube vids showing the panels are impressive. Can't wait to see this phone up close.
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Astral1
Joined: Jul 04, 2004
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From: U.K.
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I believe that a number of people here will be surprised at the numbers this phone will sell.
I move around a lot of Forums (Fora?), and wherever i see this phone discussed, there seems to be a high level of interest.
I hear arguments like "People wont pay the price", erm, i-phone, anyone?
I believe if you build it, they will come.
If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes ? |
ipporek
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High level of interest, but also high level of switches. Lots of people like me who are there considering whether to continue waiting for the X1 or to just get the Touch Pro. In fact quite a number have already made the switch. |
d-southwest
Joined: Apr 30, 2008
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From: Aruba, The Netherlands Antille
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What yall?
The only things thats bothering me is the:
MEGA BASS
Flash player
Can someone help me out?
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iva_se
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WhyBe
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Maybe one is the 128MB model and the other 256MB. Or one has accelerometer, the other doesn't. One is the Song Live, the other the real X1. Heck, I'm just guessing  |
pinguino1
Joined: Aug 20, 2008
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From: New York, USA
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On 2008-09-04 19:01:18, ipporek wrote:
High level of interest, but also high level of switches. Lots of people like me who are there considering whether to continue waiting for the X1 or to just get the Touch Pro. In fact quite a number have already made the switch.
No problem. Get the Touch Pro and for the next 2 years of your contract you can call me and I tell you how amazing is the Xperia. |
Indiandawg
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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lol its still not out? i already got e71.. am happy with it.. my next phone will be WM 7.0
i proudly laugh @ xperia ..
im still a big fan of sony ericsson but as a matter of fact.. SE has disappointed me..
they need to work on their delays
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WhyBe
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On 2008-09-05 01:18:42, Indiandawg wrote:
im still a big fan of sony ericsson but as a matter of fact.. SE has disappointed me..
they need to work on their delays
What delays? 
It isn't even 4th quarter yet. They're still on schedule. |
anonymuser
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On 2008-09-05 05:41:45, WhyBe wrote:
What delays?
It isn't even 4th quarter yet. They're still on schedule.
It will be 4th quarter if this releases in October - as opposed to the infamous "second half" release date. You can argue it's technically on target, but this is still disappointing in the context of the competition (Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, Iphone 3G, Samsung Omnia) all available much sooner.
The question has to be, why announce a phone in February that you aren't capable of bringing to market for another 8 months? Why not just sit tight and announce it in July or August, with a firmer release date, and perhaps deflect some attention away from the competition.
In effect, all they've done is promote the idea of a good WM phone to a lot of people that might not ordinarily consider one, and then left HTC and similar to reap the benefit in their continued absence.
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WhyBe
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On 2008-09-05 08:45:37, Boinng wrote:
On 2008-09-05 05:41:45, WhyBe wrote:
What delays?
It isn't even 4th quarter yet. They're still on schedule.
The question has to be, why announce a phone in February that you aren't capable of bringing to market for another 8 months? Why not just sit tight and announce it in July or August, with a firmer release date, and perhaps deflect some attention away from the competition.
In effect, all they've done is promote the idea of a good WM phone to a lot of people that might not ordinarily consider one, and then left HTC and similar to reap the benefit in their continued absence.
I think they announced it so early to build up a huge demand for the X1. You have to agree that there is unprecendted anticipation for the X1. During this 8 months of waiting, the best any other company has done is match the X1 hardware...no one has exceeded it as of today. And given the fact that SE is putting focus on the software/panels side (the most important side IMO) gives it a potential edge market-wise over other WM offerings (as I stated a few posts ago). While X1 doesn't have that "Apple" buzz, it's buzz certainly is greater than it's WM competition (in the non-smartphone-geek world). The TouchPro/Diamond/Omnia would have existed whether the X1 was announced or not.
People who really want an X1 will get the X1. The impatient will get the "competition's" devices, for now, only to get the X1 when it is finally released. Maybe a small few of the impatient will be completely satisfied with the competition's devices and stick with them. A larger percentage of the impatient will still secretly lust for the X1 and end up getting one
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anonymuser
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On 2008-09-05 09:14:52, WhyBe wrote:
I think they announced it so early to build up a huge demand for the X1. You have to agree that there is unprecendted anticipation for the X1.
No, I don't - there was anticipation for the Touch Pro and Touch Diamond, massive anticipation for the Iphone, and right now there's a lot of anticipation for Android, but I'm really not seeing any great interest in the X1 outside those same "smartphone geeks" you keep trying to distance it from. This isn't a breakthrough device yet by any means.
[quote]During this 8 months of waiting, the best any other company has done is match the X1 hardware...no one has exceeded it as of today.
Many would say the Iphone has. Many would argue the Omnia has too (it has a faster, and generally more respected processor inside it). Even 8 months ago, there really wasn't anything that amazing about the X1's hardware, it's a predictable evolution of HTC's platform from last year, nothing remotely revolutionary.
And given the fact that SE is putting focus on the software/panels side (the most important side IMO) gives it a potential edge market-wise over other WM offerings (as I stated a few posts ago). While X1 doesn't have that "Apple" buzz, it's buzz certainly is greater than it's WM competition (in the non-smartphone-geek world).
It has more of a buzz amongst SE fans, for fairly obvious reasons, but I don't believe it's made any leap towards the "non-smartphone-geek world". You do know that you're a smartphone geek, right? To be fair, whatever "buzz" the X1 has, has to be balanced against the frustration at the delays, and the general whiff of FAIL. The whole debacle at the IFA was a massive embarrassment, it's no surprise that SE have gone on a PR offensive about the phone now.
The TouchPro/Diamond/Omnia would have existed whether the X1 was announced or not.
So perhaps the X1 could have been, you know, better? More competitive?
People who really want an X1 will get the X1. The impatient will get the "competition's" devices, for now, only to get the X1 when it is finally released.
Sorry, but that is absolute fantasy. If people who were interested in the X1 initially are now investing in Touch Pros, or Omnias, or Iphones, then those are lost customers, full stop. Maybe they'll come back for the X2 some day, but the idea that a Touch Pro owner is going to take the financial hit on swapping for an X1 in order to get virtually the same device, is just pure fantasy.
Maybe a small few of the impatient will be completely satisfied with the competition's devices and stick with them. A larger percentage of the impatient will still secretly lust for the X1 and end up getting one
The X1 simply isn't the object of lust you want it to be, I'm sorry. It's a smart looking WM phone, but that's it.
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WhyBe
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Well @Boinng, I respect your opinions.......don't agree with them, but, respect them
You do know that you're a smartphone geek, right?
Almost, but not quite. I'm going to crown aksd as smartphone-geek-supreme 
I don't consider myself as deep into it as him and some others. Once I get the X1, I'll probably disappear from around here until I'm ready to buy my next killer phone a year (or probably more) later. Though I like the do-it-all phones, I'm not that deep into the chipsets and OpenGL support and what have you...I'm more intersted in the overall final product than its internal particulars (though I want top hardware). Call me a hybrid geek/mainstream-consumer. | |
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