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cableguy
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can people edit pictures in the new firmware ? i cant | |
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The_Morgue
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On 2009-12-04 21:48:26, silentstorm wrote:
but what I read was that a major improvement in firmware means the R"1" will become R"2" or R"3" & so on. That means the second digit from the left has to increase. Any changes in the firmware name starting from the third digit from the left and rightward, only denotes minor fixes/ad-ons. So unless you see R2, R3, or R6 as in the P990i's case, don't expect anything that will put a big smile on your face!
Yepp, you right.
Thats why I was a bit dissapointed when the first rumor about R1C was leaked... I mean "No Digit" stepp = no added functionality.
Added functionality and the digit after the letter "R" should be stepped.
Minor fixes and its enough to stepp the letter after the digit.
Althoug this also can be... hmmm.... some exemptions on... :-/ ..but then it's not correctly done. |
daviep
Joined: Apr 04, 2005
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From: bonnie scotland
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@cableguy-i can still edit my photos with the new firmware
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altemyr
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On 2009-12-04 21:48:26, silentstorm wrote:
Hi guys, as far as this firmware (R1CA037) is concerned, don't expect any major bug fixes/feature additions because a few years back when I was waiting anxiously for P990i's magical firmware that would make the phone do what it was advertised that it would do, I discovered the following. I can't remember if I read it in a cell phone mag or on this or another forum, but what I read was that a major improvement in firmware means the R"1" will become R"2" or R"3" & so on. That means the second digit from the left has to increase. Any changes in the firmware name starting from the third digit from the left and rightward, only denotes minor fixes/ad-ons. So unless you see R2, R3, or R6 as in the P990i's case, don't expect anything that will put a big smile on your face! And now, regarding a question I had posted last month regarding if the Satio U1a was still going to be produced. If anyone has an answer, it would be appreciated. I have still to hear back from SE. Thanks!
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that is correct. SonyEricsson has adopted the versioning system that Ericsson use on all their products, not only phones but also AXE exchange co mponents pr radio links etc.
If we analyze the version number R1CA037
- The "R" does not mean anything particular other than it's a released version. The only other letter that can exist is a "P" which stands for a not released version (P as in Preliminary)
- The 1 is the major version number, i.e. version 1.
A major version change means entirely new functionality that not necessarily has to be backward compatible, i.e. a very large change of the product, for example, if they throw in Android instead of Symbian
- The letters, AC, stands for the minor version number, where A is the first version, B the second, etc. until Z when we restart the counting with two chars, i.e. AA, AB, AC. Some characters don't exist, like I, O,P,R, so CA will stand for 68.
A minor version change may contain new functionality but the product is compatible with previous versions when it comes to data and hardware.
- The trailing digits are a serial number or a third level version.
This versio is incremented every time the software is sent through the compiler and sent to the testing department.
So, for a product from another company than SonyEricsson, the version number would have been 1.68.37, which is not a very large increment from R1BB041 (1.45.41), but still considerable. For example, the fact that they have incremented from BB to CA, which is over 20 minor version changes, indicates that the turnaround between the design and testing has been quite intensive. This also should indicate that several bugs have been found and corrected during this process. It's not all bugs that are as obvious for the end user as some bugs discussed here.
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lukechris
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After using this phone virtually non stop all night, all i can say is it's worse. The battery life is the same, if not worse. The phone is in what i hope is the middle of a crashing spree needing the battery taking out to get anything. The speed is the same and again if not worse. I'm using a vodafone handset and am just wandering if it's just this one or affecting everyone. Please let me know. Thanks |
CerealD
Joined: Jul 11, 2009
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On 2009-12-04 22:30:12, altemyr wrote:
- The letters, AC, stands for the minor version number, where A is the first version, B the second, etc. until Z when we restart the counting with two chars, i.e. AA, AB, AC. Some characters don't exist, like I, O,P,R, so CA will stand for 68.[...]
So, for a product from another company than SonyEricsson, the version number would have been 1.68.37, which is not a very large increment from R1BB041 (1.45.41) [...]
If BB is 45 then CA has to be 66 and not 68...
[BA(44) + 26-4(I, O, P, R) = CA(66)]
so It's now 1.66.37
BTW: R1CA037 now available for unbranded german handsets 
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gola
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From: South Africa
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mine is a silver vodafone branded 1218-9500_R1BB041...so far all is good.just one reboot...
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mikely_28
Joined: Mar 15, 2009
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So, we can tell it's faster, more stable, more user friendly. But I still miss a lot of functions that I had in other SE phones.
I'm not using phone too much and checking battery life. Will let know.
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hammera
Joined: Oct 21, 2007
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From: Wolverhampton
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4. updated to new version of RoadSync
Which version is it? On my unbranded Satio it's still 4.0032 and not the latest (for other S60 phones any way) 4.004 which adds Google Calander support.
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cableguy
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On 2009-12-04 22:28:03, daviep wrote:
@cableguy-i can still edit my photos with the new firmware
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so do you get a pop up when you press add effect ? Im still seen nothing
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hammera
Joined: Oct 21, 2007
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Ignore my above post. Although the RoadSync version number hasn't changed Google Calender does now work.
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altemyr
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On 2009-12-05 00:01:18, CerealD wrote:
If BB is 45 then CA has to be 66 and not 68...
[BA(44) + 26-4(I, O, P, R) = CA(66)]
Well, I didn'd perform a very exact match, so you're probably right, but it's still incorrect, since actually, it's I,O,P,R,R,U and V that are omitted. Also note that there are no zeroes like in numeric increments, so AZ increments to BA without any kind of "B0" in between. Considering this, BB would equal 36 and CA 52. (You can read about it in this link. Actually, I was also wrong about what I mentioned about replacing Symbian with Android. That wouldn't be possible by changing the major version number. It would require a whole new product number.)
But that was not my point, and not very interesting, since the only thing needed is an incrementing comparable series where you immediately can see which value is the bigger. I was merely trying to explain the logics in the version numbering and pointing out the difference in versions between the two releases. |
jmcomms
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Speed has improved a bit, no doubt.
The phone has also responded to everything I've done without any delay - so this is a big bonus. Out at a Xmas party and taking a lot of photos, showing a YouTube video and checking the World Cup groups - and all went without any issue.
So that's a definite improvement.
Can't comment on battery life - but my main problem was that something could kill the battery in a matter of hours, when it wasn't technically doing or running anything. I will need a few days to see if this still happens.
I am interested to see if RoadSync now works with Google. That will be a definite bonus!
No downsides for the new firmware as yet - so even if they're just bug fixes, I'll be happy to have this over Christmas and any further update will just be icing on the cake.
(I'll revise this statement if I find any major problems in the coming days!)
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TheHamster
Joined: Jun 29, 2004
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jmcomms or anyone - Can you check if photo uploading to the Picasa web still works ? Since the update mines stopped working. When doing 'send to web', I can create new album from the Satio but doesn't go on to that next step of posting the photo into the new album or existing album. I've checked that the album gets created via a normal web gui.
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Monaco
Joined: Oct 27, 2009
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On 2009-12-05 02:32:48, jmcomms wrote:
Can't comment on battery life - but my main problem was that something could kill the battery in a matter of hours, when it wasn't technically doing or running anything. I will need a few days to see if this still happens.
I can attest to this issue. Sometimes my phone will be running great battery life and when I'm having a busy day, not checking my phone at all, there is suddenly a surge in battery power, it will have gone from 85-90% to 20-25% and I haven't even done anything. Things like this pisses me off, even with a possibility of some apps being opened and bluetooth being on, this is unacceptable.
I'm going to figure out the firmware update right now and determine if my phone has changed at all. Hey, if it freezes only once a day, I'll be happy... | |
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