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etaab
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Posted: 2006-04-05 13:11
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Dont hold your breath. If SE announce poor video quality, the're not very likely to change it. SE have always been stubborn regarding video quality, and have always been behind because of it.

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Posted: 2006-04-05 13:43
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n80 as a direct rival to the k800



not true...
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Posted: 2006-04-05 14:43
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With new java platform 7(k800 has it) developers can make application for video recording at 320x240

This message was posted from a K750

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Posted: 2006-04-05 15:14
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yes, it may be possible...but i´m not sure...

i´m hopping SE will include true support for recording radio, like P990
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Posted: 2006-04-05 15:36
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doesnt have to have the qvga screen. in time the size of the 2.3MP cam module wouldve shrunk to a size that would fit the k750 casing

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On 2006-04-05 11:47:43, Arez wrote:
not gonna happen - bigger (qvga) screens, bigger phones

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Posted: 2006-04-05 17:38
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What was the video recording on the w800? Was it qcif?

How is this one compared to the w800, same or better ?
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Posted: 2006-04-05 18:19
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i would have thought they would have enabled mp4 recording by now like the n70. Even nokia 6280 is recording in 640 by 480 VGA now. Its astonishing SE have slept on this. Still the camera additional formats in the vid player like wmv make it a nice phone to buy.

Remember with nokia you cant encode the films and stuff like you can do with SE. You can never have a prefect phone guys. Ive been waiting for that for 5 years@!!!!!
etaab
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Posted: 2006-04-05 19:44
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@ Arez - QVGA screen does not mean a bigger phone. SE could easily fit a QVGA screen into the same size as the current K750i screen, they'd just need to use smaller technology. I think its more likely the K800i is larger to incorporate the 3G technology and camera. The K790i will simply have more space inside the casing, and may even be possible to perform a DIY convert to turn the K790i into a K800i by replacing the front case, and adding a camera inside followed by a K800i firmware flash.

@ sasha-SE - im not sure if thats possible in the new version of Java, but if it is it would be a good idea. However, i dont think its very practical having to start up a Java app everytime you want to make a good quality video. It all sounds rather cumbersome and would probably be rather slow and clunky like most Java apps.

@ kabukijep - i dont think the K800i is the size it is because of the camera module..

@ bavlondon2 - yes it is QCIF. The K800i has the same recording resolution. As for mp4, that is the encoding format, it in no way affects the recording resolution. Mp4 and 3gp are always going to be compared, and tbh, i dont think either is that much better than the other.
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Posted: 2006-04-05 20:55
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To be honest this is a good phone but for me I would be happy with 2MP on the w810 as the video hasnt improved. Ok so the k800 can play wmv but that can be easliy converted to mp4
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Posted: 2006-04-05 20:59
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no, not just the camera module, of course. but as with the s700, the size of the camera module largely influences the design & development of the casing (as do other components: speaker modules, etc etc). Smaller modules allow the manufacturer to come up with smaller casings

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i dont think the K800i is the size it is because of the camera module..

etaab
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Posted: 2006-04-06 00:50
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My main guesses as to why the phone(s) are the size they are, is because the screen is larger (not meaning the resolution, but the physical length, width etc), and because of the incorporation of 3G into the phone.

I still think that it would be possible to perform a DIY job on the K790i and turn it into a K800i, probably be cheaper than buying a K800i.
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Posted: 2006-04-06 01:45
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DIY job to transform a k790 to k800... unles you are an expert.. might be too risky.
etaab
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Posted: 2006-04-06 11:18
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Or it might not be.

Take off the K790i's cover, and you might find a small empty space and connector to place a replacement K800i video camera, and then attach a K800i faceplate, and flash the phone to use the new hardware..

You never know..
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Posted: 2006-04-08 13:21
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@arez - How can you say the n80 and k800 will not be direct rivals?

They are similarly 'specced' with 3mp cam, 3g...

They will be similarly priced, i see the n80 being a big rival to the k800..

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Posted: 2006-04-08 14:14
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yeah we never know .. that's why it MIGHT be risky..

we never know that it won't be that easy.. as taking it apart and walah... seeing a space for anther camera and then place the faceplate back in..

we never know.. It might be
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