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OriginaTitan
Joined: Nov 17, 2010
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@eldar
can you tell when the announcement is ? |
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motvikt
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On 2010-11-18 22:55:24, Maximys wrote:
On 2010-11-18 20:45:29, Legen wrote:
maybe Anzu is Vivaz replacement?
Hallon is successor of Vivaz.
And smultron vivaz pro 2 I guess?
Max what do you say about Berts talk about the most advanced phone on the market? Will it come? |
doministry
Joined: Apr 13, 2007
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On 2010-11-18 22:30:27, Mizzou wrote:
Eldar, why so pessimistic reasoning? I see the future of SE much more optimistic, SE has a chance with new phones in its portfolio, nothing of rumors about the new phone is not officially confirmed, these are just rumors and current debates, everyone else wait until next year and the results will come.
I agree with the sentence that russian market is the biggest in Europe, it's true!
Well we know nothing for sure.
But it's obvious - no great market succes without something groundbreaking....
And in time, ahead of others...
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back2you
Joined: Mar 07, 2010
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From: Saudi Arabia / Medina
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On 2010-11-18 21:40:10, Eldar wrote:
Talked today about "flagship" - nothing on horizont, sorry guys.
Walkman Android phones - LOL. They will add this features in X10 Mini update and Vivaz update as well. Difference in W button and some other stuff. But thats it. Nothing special. And thats not a separate models from what I describe before.
Future of SE. Someone count SE money. Thats not a case. Company lost market share and this story will last long . Sad story. Vodafone decide to buy only half of 2010 volume to next year, almost the same situation about other carriers.
About Russia. It was a really stupid comment that SE arent care about Russian market. If this people know SE better, they will know that russian market is the biggest in Europe (volume/price) and for SE it was number 2 in terms of value for 5 or 6 years. Bot in past 3 years, thats true. Due to stupid managment in SE Russia HQ
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justus333
Joined: Apr 21, 2007
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Some of you are acting like children who dont want to realize the facts. Eldar might have been wrong at times but for years now he correctly described the developement of Sony///. Avmazfan is like Santa Claus who makes promises about christmas presents if all behaved well but actually doesnt have anything to back him up
You desperately want to believe, thatīs the problem but looking back at the last years thereīs nothing to believe, nothing to hope for.
A dying company where one wrong decision leads to another wrong decision. Even the so hoped for change with a new CEO hasnīt turned out to be good. Now they have nothing to announce and when they eventually do (according to Rog in January), itīs going to be gadgets that are one year behind their competitors!!!
Really sad but even sadder is the desperation of the fans here! That should make SOny/// realize what a great fan base they are losing!!
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back2you
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From: Saudi Arabia / Medina
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On 2010-11-19 00:31:06, justus333 wrote:
Some of you are acting like children who dont want to realize the facts. Eldar might have been wrong at times but for years now he correctly described the developement of Sony///. Avmazfan is like Santa Claus who makes promises about christmas presents if all behaved well but actually doesnt have anything to back him up
You desperately want to believe, thatīs the problem but looking back at the last years thereīs nothing to believe, nothing to hope for.
A dying company where one wrong decision leads to another wrong decision. Even the so hoped for change with a new CEO hasnīt turned out to be good. Now they have nothing to announce and when they eventually do (according to Rog in January), itīs going to be gadgets that are one year behind their competitors!!!
Really sad but even sadder is the desperation of the fans here! That should make SOny/// realize what a great fan base they are losing!!
Can you believe the President of Sony Ericsson ?
or you believe Eldar ?
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justus333
Joined: Apr 21, 2007
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I believed all CEOs from Sony/// until some years ago when I realized that they had lost the plot. NOw I donīt anymore. But I would be more than happy if they proved me wrong this time.
Eldar has been a warner and a critic and the decline of Sony/// proves him right and this decline is a given fact that even the most faithful fans here wonīt be able to deny!
I mean, even I keep on returning here to read and hope that some great news might be revealed but.....they keep on getting worse... |
back2you
Joined: Mar 07, 2010
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From: Saudi Arabia / Medina
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On 2010-11-19 00:48:13, justus333 wrote:
I believed all CEOs from Sony/// until some years ago when I realized that they had lost the plot. NOw I donīt anymore. But I would be more than happy if they proved me wrong this time.
Eldar has been a warner and a critic and the decline of Sony/// proves him right and this decline is a given fact that even the most faithful fans here wonīt be able to deny!
I mean, even I keep on returning here to read and hope that some great news might be revealed but.....they keep on getting worse...
You will see soon 
I confirmed that you that Sony Ericsson has learned from its mistakes
next phones have bravia screen " xled " < " dynamic led "
With backlight control, BRAVIA X Series can produce rich dark tones
http://www.sony-mea.com/micro[....]echnologies/rgbdynamicled.html
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back2you
Joined: Mar 07, 2010
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From: Saudi Arabia / Medina
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1- Sony have best camera " Exmor R " for mobile < 16.41 mp and 8 mp with 1080p " full hd " , SonyEricsson used it on next phones Before all " Samsung , LG , NOKIA , HTC "
" SONY ERICSSON IS KING OF CAMERA MOBILE "
2- SonyEricsson Have Z-System " PSphone "
" SONY ERICSSON IS KING OF GAMES MOBILE "
3- SONY HAVE S-LCD AND OLED , SONYERICSSON used it on next phones
" SONY ERICSSON HAVE GOOD SCREENS FOR NEXT PHONES
4- Ericsson have u8500 , SONY ERICSSON used it Before all " Samsung , LG , NOKIA , HTC "
" SONY ERICSSON HAVE U8500 < dualcore,High-resolution,streaming 3d..etc , SONY ERICSSON used it Before all " Samsung , LG , NOKIA , HTC " U8500 lunch before july 2011
5- SONY have " Qriocity " streaming movies and tv shows coming to android avilable only " US (English)GB (English)ES (espaņol)DE (Deutsch)FR (franįais)IT (Italiano) "
6- mybe PSN comnig to Android ..!
I and Sony Ericsson CEO we said 'Big Surprise' Coming
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pauvincent
Joined: Oct 17, 2010
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From: Pasig city, Phillippines
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As far as I'm concern, Bert know more than eldar or avmax this is his first promise if he fails then I won't belive him anymore but for now I would rather believe Bert than anybody here 
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Bialynia
Joined: Jun 13, 2008
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Let's stop the silliness, of course SE will have a real flagship phone in 2011, they always have 1 or 2 come out each year. We know the PSP phone is in advanced development, it will drop at some point in 2011. We also know that SE plans on releasing a top spec Android phone next year per the SE president. When they announced the X10 the mini, mini pro and x8 came out of the blue. SE is profitable again, they killed the x10 life cycle by not realizing what a stupid number moniker (1.6 as opposed to 2.1) would do to it press wise. Trust me, they have learned big time, I can tell simply by the fact that they have announced multi-touch for the x10 and I expect an announcement on 2.2 or 2.3 coming with the next UXP (they can't handle another avalanche of criticism about their flagship phone while they try to garner positive press for the one coming out). Anzu is nothing more then a placeholder the way the k810i was after the k800i was out for a bit.
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se_dude
Joined: Nov 07, 2007
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OMG its Maximys, Finally. Dude, please throw some light into the current scenario. What about the OMAP 44xx hone SE was developing? |
synn
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On 2010-11-18 21:40:10, Eldar wrote:
Future of SE. Someone count SE money. Thats not a case. Company lost market share and this story will last long . Sad story. Vodafone decide to buy only half of 2010 volume to next year, almost the same situation about other carriers.
Maybe one of your godawesome sources forgot to pass you the memo where SE said on record that they are not chasing marketshare anymore. Funny, because a lot of us knew about it for more than a year now. As long as a company moves from losing money to making it, they are doing great. You may be able to fool some dumbasses with ominous statements like " Vodafone decide to buy only half of 2010 volume to next year", but don't take everyone to have two digit IQ scores. Care to elaborate upon that? What was the ratio of featurephone to smartphone last year? What would it be in 2011? Coz you know, a company could sell a fudgeton of featurephones and still make less money than they would selling a lesser number of smartphones. ALso, what was the average cost/ handset last year vis-a-vis that of next year?
...or do you only have specifics of Samsung?
On 2010-11-18 21:40:10, Eldar wrote:
About Russia. It was a really stupid comment that SE arent care about Russian market. If this people know SE better, they will know that russian market is the biggest in Europe (volume/price) and for SE it was number 2 in terms of value for 5 or 6 years. Bot in past 3 years, thats true. Due to stupid managment in SE Russia HQ
Still don't see what makes Russia special (When it comes to smartphones).
-It's not a first world economy that has a lot of early adopters with disposable income.
- It's not at the bleeding edge of technology like some Asian countries and of late; US.
- It's not the home of any manufacturer thereby fueling nationalistic sentiments into sales.
- Prices there (By which you "decide" the fate of many a handset) have no relevance to the rest of the world.
Nothing personal, just facts. I met the most awesome Muskovite girl three summers ago. |
goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
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From: Liverpool City Centre
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ditto.
There is massive growth in smartphones atm. The ratio of SE's smartphones to feature phones has increased exponentially and the fact that they are making a profit means they are on the right track, although I don't think they themselves expected to get back to profitability until Q4.
Looking at the code names for the rumoured phones it strikes me that they are to bulk our their portfolio with a host of Android phones to tap into this amazing growth - a very smart move - and as long as they keep the hardware quality up and keep up to date with STABLE versions of Android then they can't really go wrong.
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pauvincent
Joined: Oct 17, 2010
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From: Pasig city, Phillippines
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well at the end of all this, someones reputation will be tarnished  I hope in the end  fans will come up winners |
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