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Jah
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lets see which really comes first... 
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I think you already know the answer to that one 
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mrvanx
Joined: Aug 22, 2004
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From: York, UK
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From having a quick read and a bit of patience im doing the sensible thing and waiting a few weeks once they come in stock. From what ive read on expansys forums the first load of P990s wont support push?!?!
Might be mistaken could be allaboutsymbian forums????? |
corentin
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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Masseur, i know it s a bit off topic, but i m salso pondering the p990i or the tytn and i already have a m600i. What do you think of WM5 compared to UIQ3 at least in the m600i?I'm looking for a professional device for a professional use and i must admit that so far i like UIQ3 for a personnal use but i really think that all the eye candy of the OS is here to make up for the fact that it s a sub par professional tool...I really hope i m wrong but i d like your input on the matter since you ve been using WM5 devices while i never had the opprtuniy to try them out |
Spawn
Joined: Apr 25, 2003
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On 2006-08-02 13:52:20, mrvanx wrote:
From having a quick read and a bit of patience im doing the sensible thing and waiting a few weeks once they come in stock. From what ive read on expansys forums the first load of P990s wont support push?!?!
Might be mistaken could be allaboutsymbian forums?????
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Thats what ive been told by expansys by a fella called Keith, said that an upgrade would be available within a few weeks for the push capability.
I dont know if this is going to affect the all the first batches of the p990i or just the ones expansys are getting. |
masseur
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@corentin, I've really enjoyed my time with the m600 and am much happier with it than I have been with any P series before it.
checking mail, browsing, calling, etc all seem a breeze on the M600 but I feel that UIQ3 is cmoing closer to WM5 but is still behind in terms of single handed use. The WM5 softkeys make one handed use so easy and now the TyTN has a jog dial too...!
The TyTN is expected to be around £100 cheaper than the P990 which may be a factor for some, and will arrive with a much more mature and stable operating system.
As the two devices compare very well in most aspects of their functionality it may well be a simple choice of personal manufacturer preference but windows mobile 5 has been around for a year or so and hence there is plenty of software available, included versions upgraded specifically for WM5 from WM2003SE. Its true that some developers have readied there UIQ3 versions but it will not be until some time after the general availability of the M600 and P990 that most of our favourite apps will start to become available as an upgrade.
WM5 also comes with the standard "pocket" set off apps... word, excel, PDF, PPT etc and IMHO these do a better job that the quickoffice.
MiniSD is currently available in 2gb for around the same price as 1gb M2
as a PC user, the integration between the WM5 and windows platforms also makes them more usable, although I do admit that SE have done alot in their latest versions of the PC suites to improve on this
with the P990 delays I once again find myself undecided and it may simply be a case of which comes available first...
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corentin
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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thanks a bunch Masseur I think i ll give the tytn a try |
kiriakos
Joined: Jan 12, 2004
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From: sweden
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good text masseur thats the true. But there will be a p990i for me.
But totaly agree with you. |
Jah
Joined: Jun 22, 2003
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@masseur
couple of points on WM5 compared to Symbian platforms:
- the P990 uses Duo Pro, which is not as expensive as M2s
- Docs to Go for UIQ3 IMHO is better then Pocket Word & Excel
- Blackberry not available for WM5 (or other push systems)
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the Puffin
Joined: Jul 10, 2006
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On 2006-08-02 14:14:48, masseur wrote:
The TyTN is expected to be around £100 cheaper than the P990 which may be a factor for some ....
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Here in Sweden it is the other way around, the TyTN is around £100 more expensive than the P990.
/Puf
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SL33PYH34D
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
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@Masseur- I'm sure your post echoes what many of us are thinking.
The one single thing right now keeping my from instantly going for the TyTN is simply SE brand loyalty.
To be honest though I am rapidly thinking the TyTN is the way to go - especially with the P990i having been so delayed its replacement will probably arrive sooner than expected (and maybe with Symbian 9.3 and its better memory management too).
Particularly as a techie I love the ability to play under the hood with WM5, and it seems to be a mature and stable OS with vastly more useful software readily available (plus the impending UK launch of the Slingbox Mobile client too which would be a big plus for me as a Slingbox user). I also think the enforced and rather botched Symbian Signing for just about any useful application will kill one of the best things going for UIQ - the amount of freeware and software available from small developers. Yes I know freeware signing is free, its taking over three weeks plus right now - and would take the same again for each new version with a bug fix.
What I may end up is going for the TyTN now and skip this generation of P-series and wait for the next.
Like Masseur I can see the potential in UIQ3 with my M600i, I'm just not sure (just like the original P800) that it is quite ready for the prime time. |
mrvanx
Joined: Aug 22, 2004
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From: York, UK
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@SL33PYH34D
Much the same frame of mind as me now, just watched a video review of the TyTN here and must say i was impressed, i can live without the only thing missing from the TyTn than the 990 (that im bothered about) which is FM Radio. To me it seems the SDmicro cards are cheaper and im much more confident in the WM5 environment. Also being significantly cheaper is helping my decision. |
masseur
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I think there is a certain psychology here in forums like Esato too in that we're all caught up in the P990 "craze" and maybe some here like to be "part of the group" and so will choose the P990 regardless of anything else in order to continue to be part of that group
just call me Freud!
fortunately I'm not scared to be different
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Jah
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On 2006-08-02 15:50:00, masseur wrote:
fortunately I'm not scared to be different
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Er...did this when I went for the HTC Universal and now I have a very expensive door stop. If people are not certain then it is also an option to wait until there are quality reviews/comparisons available. Also hopefully people will look at what they want PDA-Phone or Phone-PDA. I was unhappy with the Universal for many reasons but primarily becuase it was a poor phone (poor battery life, poor BT, poor call quality, etc).
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Spawn
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On 2006-08-02 16:02:31, Jah wrote:
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On 2006-08-02 15:50:00, masseur wrote:
fortunately I'm not scared to be different
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Er...did this when I went for the HTC Universal and now I have a very expensive door stop. If people are not certain then it is also an option to wait until there are quality reviews/comparisons available. Also hopefully people will look at what they want PDA-Phone of Phone-PDA. I was unhappy with the Universal for many reasons but primarily becuase it was a poor phone (poor battery life, poor BT, poor call quality, etc).
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[ This Message was edited by: Jah on 2006-08-02 15:04 ]
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I echo your thoughts Jah, i had the o2 exec and yes it was a lovely device but it was a pda then phone whereas the p990i to me is more phone than a pda. Not only that the o2 exec and simialr models are so damn big especially when in the pocket. Great devices as a pda but as a phone, sorry they truly do suck on that part.
By the way does the Tyn Tyn support bluetooth audio streaming to a bluetooth headset like the SE HBH_DS970??... |
masseur
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@JAH, ...and I didn't disagree with you regarding the universal (JasJar) as I had both at the same time and compared it with the wizard (k-jam) and chose the k-jam by a long way and for some of the reasons you mention
The TyTN is simply an extension of the wizard with 3G capabilities and a few improvements (such as windows and ok key in keybard closed mode) that make it so much better. so for me it is already a proven product
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