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apolloa
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Posted: 2013-10-30 21:34
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On 2013-10-30 01:21:48, Supa_Fly wrote:

WOW.... you're statement is just so false - and shows how little you know of demographics.

Personally, after not owning a watch for 13yrs I've recently purchased a classy Swatch model - basic Chronograph and it's VERY sharp, matches my skin tone and dress attire.

1. Demographics show in the western world youth under 25 don't and haven't owned a watch of any kind (since being a toddler) - new generation.
2. Those older than 30 roughly half in the western world own a watch and have for many years. The majority of which will continue to by them.
3. Those that have professional positions in large corporations - having an office job own a watch. Majority I'll bet that wear dress clothes do.

OF course charging a watch doesn't make much sense today - even in the age of the consumer smartphones - however the fact of purchasing a specific watch battery for your particular model is just as assinine as well. Ever half to look for a watch battery that matches voltage and size and shape? Arrgh!!

I'm even willing to bet those youth - 16-30 in both China and Japan DO actually own a watch (and it's not a smartwatch either for more than say 5%).

Owning a watch today, is like owning a proper pair of dress shoes ... it shows class, demeanor, and character.



I don't agree with you at all, what demographic? And where on earth did you get those figures from? People in professional positions have watches? lol. No, anyone and everyone can have a watch, their is no demographic involved. Personally I would love an Omega Dark Side of the Moon but seeing as that's £6000 it isn't going to happen! And people get brought watches as presents.

But as for smart watches, they can be included in this thread I feel however I also think any rumours relating to them will be very thin on the ground as Sony have launched two now in the last two years. I was personally interested in the Qualcomm Toq but that isn't coming to the UK, so next up is to see if Google make a Nexus watch, but it needs to ditch the cameras and have a battery life of a week ish.

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Posted: 2013-10-31 07:04
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10 million smartphones shipped Q3.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/
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Posted: 2013-10-31 07:09
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good numbers, but not good enough to push sony into the #3 spot like they want
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Ricky D
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Posted: 2013-10-31 07:43
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Is 10 million up on last year Q3?

Are we expecting any other devices before Christmas?


To the watch debate, smartwatches and regular watches are completely different types of products aimed at completely different people. The difference is much larger than say a smartphone compared to a feature phone. The majority of regular watch users, as Supa_Fly states, are wearing watches out of habit or social status. Smartwatches simply will not appeal to the majority of those users because they are relatively cheap (so have no status factor) and are inconvenient (so aren't suitable for habitual watch wearers). It seems the argument about watches is like one person "but this orange IS and orange" and the other person saying "but this pear IS a pear" and both repeating the same line at each other with increased volume in the hope that suddenly all the fruit are the same. Watches and smartwatches do different things and have very little overlap in functionality, they are for different people, in different situations, with different objectives in life, broadly speaking.

What would be interesting is if Sony teamed up with a reputable 'classy' watch maker to make a time piece with unobstrusive smart functonality. Something that looks like a classy watch you could wear to a black tie event (and carried a reputable watch makers name) but also could flick through texts, dismiss calls and remote detonate the bomb you planted in the evil layer of your arch enemy. It'd be perfect for the next Bond movie.

IN MY OPINION, smartwatches do belong in this thread as they are coming from Sony with Xperia branding and this is an Xperia rumours thread (at least mostly rumours).
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Posted: 2013-10-31 07:44
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sony has to try harder to get into top 3. won't happen until Sony expands into US and other big markets.
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Posted: 2013-10-31 07:50
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OMG! international Z1f must be coming soon.

http://www.mobicity.com.au/so[....]LoCFQLvpAodlA8Abg#.UnH9y_lmh8E
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Posted: 2013-10-31 08:04
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Here is the transcipt of the conversation i had with the chat guy, no that much info, but at least we know it'll be coming soon. YAY!


[Rujean] Add two or more accessories to your cart and get free shipping! I'm here to help you with any questions you may have.
[MobiCityAU Visitor] does the xperia z1f page mean that its coming internationally soon?
[Rujean] Hello, and welcome to MobiCity. How may I assist you today?
[Rujean] Soon.
[MobiCityAU Visitor] How soon?
[Rujean] For all the latest information on new products, release dates and mobile news please follow us on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/mobicity or http://facebook.com/mobicityfans
[MobiCityAU Visitor] i cant seem to find any info on either
[Rujean] Phone unreleased.
[Rujean] http://www.mobicity.com.au/sony-xperia-z1-f.html#.UnH_MvlmiSo
[MobiCityAU Visitor] yeah i know but you have it on your web site so you should know something? Also will it have docomo logo on it?
[Rujean] We have it on our website so customers will know that it will be coming soon.
[Rujean] No specific release date as of now.
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Posted: 2013-10-31 10:55
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I wonder what's Z2's codename?
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Posted: 2013-10-31 11:23
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@Ricky D
I think that any future offer from sonymobile.com should be discussed here, whether it's a phone, earpiece, docking station, watch, etc.
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Posted: 2013-10-31 14:57
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On 2013-10-31 10:55:32, razec wrote:
I wonder what's Z2's codename?



Isn´t it Avatar?
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Posted: 2013-10-31 15:33
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Sony sold 10M smartphones in the last quarter:

http://m.androidauthority.com[....]million-xperia-devices-312832/
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Posted: 2013-10-31 15:40
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@supercool - i agree. Sony won't become a big player or even get close to #3 until they've expanded into the US market with force.
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Posted: 2013-10-31 16:21
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@ Ricky d

Sony did team up with 'reputable 'classy' watch maker'. It was Fossils. The Fossil mbw-150 and the Fossil mbw-100.
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Posted: 2013-10-31 16:51
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Fossil are hardly Omega, Tag Heuer, Patek Philippe or similar, where top Fossil watches get to a few hundred pounds, top Omegas go for 10s of thousands. But the Fossil smartwatch was far better in style than the current crop of smartwatches and much more appealing to myself (a regular analogue watch wearer).
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Posted: 2013-11-01 04:36
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fossil smartwatch looks more like traditional analog watch than those digi-analog mix watch with intrusive display
[ This Message was edited by: hihihans on 2013-11-01 09:43 ]
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