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MWEB
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Posted: 2009-01-01 20:55
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TBH PK, you don't have to be a Muslim to be outraged by the current goings on in Gaza, Speaking as a Brit, Britain had to endure the bombing of innocent civilians by the IRA for many years, a tiny minority of Irish Republicans were terrorists, so it is with the Palestinians, Israel cares not how many innocent men, women and children it kills in it's vile oppression of Gaza residents.
Israel above all Nations should be aware that senseless wholesale slaughter of innocent victims is utterly unacceptable, instead of learning from the past, they are guilty of the very crimes that were deplorably inflicted upon their own people, my thoughts, and the thoughts of every right minded human being is with the people of Gaza in these terrible times!!
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Posted: 2009-01-01 21:31
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may this bloody battle which is claiming innocent lives end soon ... ameen sum ameen ...

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PeterKay
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Posted: 2009-01-01 22:15
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On 2009-01-01 20:55:29, MWEB wrote:
TBH PK, you don't have to be a Muslim to be outraged by the current goings on in Gaza, Speaking as a Brit, Britain had to endure the bombing of innocent civilians by the IRA for many years, a tiny minority of Irish Republicans were terrorists, so it is with the Palestinians, Israel cares not how many innocent men, women and children it kills in it's vile oppression of Gaza residents.
Israel above all Nations should be aware that senseless wholesale slaughter of innocent victims is utterly unacceptable, instead of learning from the past, they are guilty of the very crimes that were deplorably inflicted upon their own people, my thoughts, and the thoughts of every right minded human being is with the people of Gaza in these terrible times!!




Thanks MWEB, many non-muslims are also very saddened by this total act of Terrorism which the world leaders including the Arabs are doing nothing about!! its painful to see.

I can also say that many donations are taking place for Gaza, for thos widows, orphans, injured etc and ofiaich a honourable member here on Esato has also donated to this cause.

May Allah accept all the efforts and May Allah have mercy on those suffering.

Amen

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Posted: 2009-01-01 22:37
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Ameen Sum Ameen brother Abusamad.
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PeterKay
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Posted: 2009-01-01 22:49
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Brothers

Islam Channel are holding a LIVE donation NOW

Please do your best

Watch live here: http://freetvonline.blogspot.com/2008/05/islam-channel-uk.html

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Posted: 2009-01-01 23:02
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Im sorry if this gets on anyones nerves but its not just Israel thats in the wrong here. Hamas are just as bad. THAT IS THE TRUTH OF IT.
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Posted: 2009-01-01 23:05
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You going off the UK media?

looks like it.

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Posted: 2009-01-01 23:24
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On 2009-01-01 23:02:00, Bonovox wrote:
Im sorry if this gets on anyones nerves but its not just Israel thats in the wrong here. Hamas are just as bad. THAT IS THE TRUTH OF IT.

Who are saying they are good?

But the numbers of killing speaks for them selves! It is not only the kíllings but also the victims who are killed: Many of those palaestinians were actually civilians!
That the same saying that the americans also were evil in 2. world war, because they were, and they fought Japan, which also was cruel when taking over parts of Asia, and later Nazi-Germany !!!


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Posted: 2009-01-01 23:32
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No i am not going off the news. Both sides are as bad as each other and no one is innocent on either side except for innocent civilians. Of course you would say Palestinians are the innocent ones and have never wronged but im sorry its complete crap. Both sides have commited terrible attacks but as normal its always each side blames each other. Im not sticking us for Israel im saying neither side is without blame. I have nothing against Muslims or Jews im a Christian but its always. AND DONT SAY I DONT KNOW ANYTHING IM TALKING RUBBISH. And America were originally forced into the WORLD WARS by Japan attacking America UNPREVOKED. When the WORLD WARS first started America wanted nothing to do with them.

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Posted: 2009-01-01 23:36
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£15,000 donated in 15minutes

Keep the donations coming brothers/sisters

http://freetvonline.blogspot.com/2008/05/islam-channel-uk.html

C905
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Posted: 2009-01-01 23:39
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On 2009-01-01 23:32:00, Bonovox wrote:
No i am not going off the news. Both sides are as bad as each other and no one is innocent on either side except for innocent civilians. Of course you would say Palestinians are the innocent ones and have never wronged but im sorry its complete crap. Both sides have commited terrible attacks but as normal its always each side blames each other. Im not sticking us for Israel im saying neither side is without blame. I have nothing against Muslims or Jews im a Christian but its always. AND DONT SAY I DONT KNOW ANYTHING IM TALKING RUBBISH.

No one is saying that you are talking rubbish
But, if you see the news you would see videos, pictures and so on, and you would discover that the ones I call innocent in fact are old people and small children!
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Posted: 2009-01-01 23:44
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Yes i know. The sad fact is that in any war either side(including America)always say they dont target civilians. But the sad fact is innocent women children and old people will be killed. When your firing big rockets its not easy to avoid innocent people. You can never say either side is innocent of terrible attacks.
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Posted: 2009-01-01 23:48
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Keep the donations coming

http://freetvonline.blogspot.com/2008/05/islam-channel-uk.html

http://www.uwt.org/
http://www.islamic-relief.com/
http://www.interpal.info/



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Posted: 2009-01-02 00:22
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On 2009-01-01 23:24:18, C905 wrote:

On 2009-01-01 23:02:00, Bonovox wrote:
Im sorry if this gets on anyones nerves but its not just Israel thats in the wrong here. Hamas are just as bad. THAT IS THE TRUTH OF IT.

Who are saying they are good?

But the numbers of killing speaks for them selves! It is not only the kíllings but also the victims who are killed: Many of those palaestinians were actually civilians!
That the same saying that the americans also were evil in 2. world war, because they were, and they fought Japan, which also was cruel when taking over parts of Asia, and later Nazi-Germany !!!




Sorry, excuse my iggnorance obviously I read that wrong, are you saying the Americans were "evil" in WW2?

If i was an American I would be outraged. Are you saying putting an end to nazi germany was cruel?! And what on earth do you mean, cruel for fighting Japan? Japan only annhilated the Americans at Pearl Harbour! It was so cruel that America fought the japanese! Taking over parts of Asia? Surely you cant just point fingers at America, because with that mentality every empire in world history was evil and cruel, no matter what influances and and advancements they made for the modern world.

About Israel/Palestine, its war of clueless brothers in my opinion. You would think that people with such a similar culture and history would live in peace.
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Posted: 2009-01-02 00:25
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Asalam o alaikum warah matullah wabarakatuhu

It is indeed a great thing that Islam Channel is doing. May Allah's accept their actions and may Allah accept the donations by everyone.

It is not how much you spend, it is the intention that counts. Even a pound can earn you rewards which cannot be imagined by us.

Allah knows the best.

This is a very sensitive moment we are going through. Emotions of many are on a knives edge. This is a time for us people, no matter what race or religion to stick together. Yes both the parties are guilty of their actions, but this is not the time to discuss this. Right now we have to stop Israel from performing more attacks so that innocent people from both sides are not killed or hurt .
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