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REO
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Correct me if I am wrong..... The only  with CCD, was the S710 and S700.
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-11-09 00:58:34, REO wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong..... The only with CCD, was the S710 and S700.
Correct, unfortunately 
Let's see how the new EXMOR CMOS sensor performs. According to Sony's marketing information, it should be as good as CCD. But then again, when was the last time a commercial company like Sony were truthful about their products' performance? If you'd believe their hype about the K850i, you would throw away your DSLR!
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REO
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Let's be honest here....... The quality between a 2.0 MP cam phone and a 5.0 MP cam phone is not eye opening at this stage of the game. perhaps in a year or two. However not just yet....
On that note..... I will keep my lovely W810 which serves me well.
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DarKMaGiCiaN
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still this N95 vs K850
I mean Nokia vs Sonyericsson
@all
please stop that
at the end no one will say I was wrong and you right!!!!
for me I prefer sonyericsson camera because it takes the shot with its details not like nokia phone which depends on the strong noise reduction function that erase some of the details in the shot and the vivid color
sonyericsson camera allow me to take completely different pics for the same view in the same condition and angel
as will as edting the pic in photo software
while it is hard to manage nokia's shot in photoshop
on the other hand nokia people love nokia camera because it give sharp vivid color pics without noise |
AbuBasim
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On 2007-11-09 08:53:59, DarKMaGiCiaN wrote:
still this N95 vs K850
I mean Nokia vs Sonyericsson
@all
please stop that
at the end no one will say I was wrong and you right!!!!
Hey, Mr Party-pooper. Go away if you just want to spoil the fun! 
This has been one of the most interesting threads here at Esato so far. Not a typical Nokia vs SE thread where the insults start flying very quickly but instead, for most of the time, the tone has been civilized and people have been trying to trump each other with facts and photo samples. Maybe it's because the typical Nokia and SE fanatics have been staying out from this thread, so far.
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plankgatan
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i also thought that CCD was much better then cmos...but now when i know the fact. thats bollocks.....
i thought every expensive cameras had ccd !!! ..i was realy realy wrong...........
you find CMOS in many expensive cameras .....example EOS 1D Mark III & II use CMOS, (cost between 4000-8000 EURO)........and many many other big cameras have cmos.
so thats bullshit that ccd allways is better..
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-11-09 09:51:02, plankgatan wrote:
i also thought that CCD was much better then cmos...but now when i know the fact. thats bollocks.....
ccd isnt way much better then cmos....(i thought every expensive cameras had ccd !!! ..i was realy realy wrong...........
you find CMOS in many expensive cameras .....example EOS 1D Mark III & II use CMOS, (cost between 4000-8000 EURO)........and many many other big cameras have cmos.
so thats bullshit that ccd allways is better..
Again a "clever" guy comparing DSLR cameras with huge CMOS sensors with camera phones with small CCD sensors. Talk about being confused about facts 
Why don't we compare your K850i with the Sony DSLR-A100 ????
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mib1800
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I think not even CCD or super-duper CMOS will help the K850 because SE insist on using cheap lens (so as to boost its profit). See the picture below with its "purple fringing". And no firmware update can correct this.
http://mobilarena.hu/dl/rev/2007-09/1716/k850i6.jpg
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plankgatan
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On 2007-11-09 10:04:34, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2007-11-09 09:51:02, plankgatan wrote:
i also thought that CCD was much better then cmos...but now when i know the fact. thats bollocks.....
ccd isnt way much better then cmos....(i thought every expensive cameras had ccd !!! ..i was realy realy wrong...........
you find CMOS in many expensive cameras .....example EOS 1D Mark III & II use CMOS, (cost between 4000-8000 EURO)........and many many other big cameras have cmos.
so thats bullshit that ccd allways is better..
Again a "clever" guy comparing DSLR cameras with huge CMOS sensors with camera phones with small CCD sensors. Talk about being confused about facts
that was NOT my point........my point was that cmos can be better (even i small cameras)
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i dont realy care which sensor it have....i know that k850 take awesome pictures....thats good enough for me..(and if you dont believe me, see the k850 thread ...he he
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-11-09 10:06:55, plankgatan wrote:
that was NOT my point........my point was that cmos can be better (even i small cameras)
Why is there only one CMOS-based point-and-shoot camera on the market???? (The Kodak C513.) Because small CMOS sensors produce sh*tty pictures, that's why! You were comparing small CCD sensors with DSLRs with huge CMOS sensors. Any sensor type, when large enough, will produce very good photos.
Why doesn't Hasselblad put tiny CMOS sensors in their digital backs? Because they would be the laughing stock of the camera market!
i dont realy care which sensor it have....i know that k850 take awesome pictures....thats good enough for me..(and if you dont believe me, see the k850 thread ...he he
Your 0.45 MP (778x584) photos in that thread are very impressive!
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DarKMaGiCiaN
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Hey, Mr Party-pooper. Go away if you just want to spoil the fun!
where is the fun in my post ??
if you think my post is not nessesary and it just out of the topic
then I'll delete it and I'm sorry for that
otherwise please correct what I wrote ^_^
Why don't we compare your K850i with the Sony DSLR-A100 ????
hehehe I know someone who alrady compared his i-mobile 902 with the Canon EOS 300D ^_*
I think not even CCD or super-duper CMOS will help the K850 because SE insist on using cheap lens (so as to boost its profit). See the picture below with its "purple fringing". And no firmware update can correct this.
you are correct in this point and I really want to see a sonyericsson mobile phone with a carl zeiss lens
but if sonyericsson do that then how many people gonna buy it ?
lots of people will say "yes this is my next mobile phone but when it release I'm sure that they will say this mobile phone is costly
I think sonyericsson dont want to repeat s700 and w900 story
they are one of the best mobile phones sonyericsson ever released but how many people bought it ?
I have a question?
why japanese people have great mobile phones from sonyericsson ?
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plankgatan
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On 2007-11-09 10:11:51, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2007-11-09 10:06:55, plankgatan wrote:
that was NOT my point........my point was that cmos can be better (even i small cameras)
Why is there only one CMOS-based point-and-shoot camera on the market???? (The Kodak C513.) Because small CMOS sensors produce sh*tty pictures, that's why! You were comparing small CCD sensors with DSLRs with huge CMOS sensors. Any sensor type, when large enough, will produce very good photos.
Why doesn't Hasselblad put tiny CMOS sensors in their digital backs? Because they would be the laughing stock of the camera market!
i dont realy care which sensor it have....i know that k850 take awesome pictures....thats good enough for me..(and if you dont believe me, see the k850 thread ...he he
Your 0.45 MP (778x584) photos in that thread are very impressive!
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-11-09 09:14 ]
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like you know you can only show pictures in 800 x 600 here on Esato forum....
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i can show you many many pictures in full size...most of them still looks good.
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i HAVE show full size pictures before...so why are you nagging about this silly shit.
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why i dont lay up my pictures with ex, Imageshack, is because it take more time and its realy boring work
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why dont you show us some pictures from your own cell phone....
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-11-09 11:50:24, plankgatan wrote:
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like you know you can only show pictures in 800 x 600 here on Esato forum....
Yes, but you don't leave it up to Esato to do the scaling. You're scaling your photos intentionally to an even smaller size. I wonder why...?
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i can show you many many pictures in full size...most of them still looks good.
That is debatable.
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i HAVE show full size pictures before...so why are you nagging about this silly shit.
Silly shit? Surely you must mean "silly sh*t"!
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why i dont lay up my pictures with ex, Imageshack, is because it take more time and its realy boring work
Look up on the right of this page. Do you see the "Photos" link there? You have already posted a few of your thumbnail-sized snaps there a few times before. It doesn't take more time to post your snaps there, than it takes to post directly in this thread.
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why dont you show us some pictures from your own cell phone....
I have posted a few samples here in the Photos section, ALL in full size, and also in this thread, where you for example can look at this post where I make a small comparison of my camera phone with my old CANON 300D 6MP DSLR, and my post following that, where I compare the same camera phone with a Olympus C-350 P&S camera.
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>500
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ok where we going with this people? lets TRY and stay on topic 
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-11-09 12:30:23, >500 wrote:
ok where we going with this people?
Look a few posts back and you'll see plankgatan's amazing comparison between camera phones and DSLRs. Then I apparently touched a sore spot when I nagged a bit about his tiny (but ultra-sharp and completely free of noise, that can't be denied!) photos.
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