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deepakv
Joined: Sep 27, 2004
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My God !!!!!
This is awesome..I just kicked off a topic in the esato forum about WM Devices and thought wil be barred for life  but this topic seems to be going on quite well
For an update from my side, the P990 is already out in India, where I live and I got a chance to play around with it. I have used both the P Series & the O2 XDA, XDA IIs, XDA mini, XDA Atom and had issues with my Atom. The P990 felt good but I had some minor issues even when I was fooling around with the phone in the shop. (Memory allocation issue, screen froze etc..)
Reading Massuer's ardent admiration of the TyTn has takne me again to the dark side of WM Devices
There are no TyTn rebranded devices in India still and am trying to get the Dopod 838 Professional from Singapore. Its just a matter of time and hopefullt this time round, will have a Phone which works like a phone (Atom had really poor call quality) and will also allow me to do all the other smart things have got used to
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SL33PYH34D
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
Posts: 486
From: Berkshire, UK
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On 2006-08-21 11:10:08, deepakv wrote:
My God !!!!!
This is awesome..I just kicked off a topic in the esato forum about WM Devices and thought wil be barred for life but this topic seems to be going on quite well |
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Perhaps a slightly sad sign of the times that  has pushed peoples patience to the limit with the long delays on the P990i.
On the other hand this kind of discussion is healthy for everyone involved and the good of the forum as a whole IMO - it is nice to see people finally accept there are other competitive manufacturers out there other than , and even better to see some good clean (and for the most part well reasoned) debate about it.  |
Ctrl+A
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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One area that has not really been discussed in this debate is the issue of virus attacks being targeted more to Windows systems than others.
Any ideas how this will pan out in the UIQ3 vs WM5 ? Is the WM5 OS as readily targetted?
then to reiterate a previous (slightly off topic) earlier question: Does anyone know if the TyTN will be supprted on the SE HCB-700 car bluetooth handsfree and if so to what extent? Does anyone have this combo?
Take everything. You're bound to get something. |
Jah
Joined: Jun 22, 2003
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From: UK
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As Vodafone have not been able to replace my faulty TyTN they have given me 30 days to evaluate it! I am now of the view that my current TyTN probably has a defective screen as well as keyboard as having seen a few pictures for Masseur's TyTN my TyTN screen does not look as good as his one.
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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i did wonder why you thought the screen was not good but I didn't want to get too much into that as its often difficult to compare from pics.
putting the P990 next to the TyTN I am in no way dissatisfied with the screen and ouside readability is much the same too
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SL33PYH34D
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
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From: Berkshire, UK
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On 2006-08-21 14:31:03, Ctrl+A wrote:
One area that has not really been discussed in this debate is the issue of virus attacks being targeted more to Windows systems than others.
Any ideas how this will pan out in the UIQ3 vs WM5 ? Is the WM5 OS as readily targetted? |
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Personally I don't think any mobile OS has been really targetted or will for the immediate future.
For a start both Symbian (with Symbian Signed) and Windows Mobile software cannot install itself without the users consent or interaction, and secondly there is no obvious way of the virus transmitting itself between devices to spread. People in the past have talked about Bluetooth being used, but this is a red herring - Bluetooth itself is perfectly secure, it tends to be users themselves who are daft enough to leave their devices as visible without authentication that post the only risk.
In addition the new Symbian Signed process should go some way to preventing viruses/trojans and malware ever appearing on the platform.
I am of the firm belief that viruses and trojans post no real issue to mobile devices and their threat is vastly overplayed generally by companies who have a vested interest in selling software to prevent them. |
themarques
Joined: Jan 26, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: London, Tokyo,
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To be honest this screen alignment issue seems to be more software based than anything IMO. I used my tytn for a week with the Original CHT9000 firmware that came with it (yeah I can read a bit of Chinese), anyway I flashed it to the English DOPOD firmware and guess what my screen is acting up now.
Oh and and I damaged the holder were the stylus sits in (another problem I believe plaguing the tytn) so be carefull if you taking the stylus in and out.
Checked with HTC EUROPE and entered the serial of my phone to see if it was under warrently (even though its bought in Asia) and the website came back and said still under warrenty so I am quite happy with that.
And finally for those on T-mobile word is that you have to contact T-mobile to activate HSDPA it may show U on the screen but you not actually getting the HSDPA speeds. Goodluck.
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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I haven't got a screen alignment problem but since day 1 I have a sticky "back" key (the one under the jog dial). I've had an RMA to return it to Expansys for a week now and I have finally decided to do so tomorrow since its not correcting itself (I thought it might wear in).
They seem to have plenty of stock so I should get another fairly quickly in the meantime I guess its M600 and P990!
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zakkz
Joined: Apr 05, 2004
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From: London
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I've been following this thread for a while now, so i thought i'd give my views.
When the p990i was first announced, I was absolutely amazed. It was everything I could have ever asked for in a phone, and loads more extras.
Fast forward 2 years...The phone still looks amazing IMO but its let down by the fact that other manufacturers have far surpassed it's specifications.
2mp camera? Well there are a few 3.2mp camera phones out now-even lg's 5mp offering.
3g? Old news now-the TyTn has HSDPA.
Upgraded platform? Well windows mobile 5 is out now, which seems to be a lot more stable so far. There are also a lot more programs being released for it.
Wi-fi? Doesn't have 802.11g
I know for a fact that if SE had released this earlier, i would have definately bought it. I year ago i would have probably sold my grandmother to fund one of these. Even 6 months ago,the technology wouldn't have seemed all that dated, and still drool-worthy.
However, now, it just seems a like you can get a lot more from other devices-well namely the TyTn.
I've owned a p900 and a p910i, and I had my heart set on one of these ever since it was first announced, but now it just seems a little like it's not as cutting edge as an SE flagship phone should be. |
SL33PYH34D
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
Posts: 486
From: Berkshire, UK
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On 2006-08-21 17:41:00, zakkz wrote:
When the p990i was first announced, I was absolutely amazed. It was everything I could have ever asked for in a phone, and loads more extras.
Fast forward 2 years...The phone still looks amazing IMO but its let down by the fact that other manufacturers have far surpassed it's specifications.
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Considering the P990i was announced on 10th October 2005, I think your "fast forward" is a little ambitous. |
mhacxson
Joined: Aug 21, 2006
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hi,
Im new here, Im from norway, and i bought a SE p990i and actually today i sent it back for refund. after one week of having it. I realize that the phone is boring. Its nice, but having 2 SE phone is not good.
The SE p990i has little keyboard that sometimes hard to input letters. The handwriting sometimes bad, when i want to input a period character, the screen hardly able to write it,instead i need to use the keyboard to enter the period character and other characters. The sound is good but not as good as se walkman phone, picture is good too but the photo light is weak and i feel the autopokus are not working good..
The thing i dont like is, The SE Web Browser is not so good. i dont know about the HTC Tytn. in se browser .im not able to view some website with java embed on it or java plug-in.even on the settings the java is enabled. i can not download certificates too.which is very important for me to access some banks here in norway and website with live streaming video. I can not see how to configure the connections type and bands . Like using the Wireless. I feel i dont have so much control of the configurations. The menus are very simple.. not like the HTC, the htc tytn offers more configurations and menus(more informative). first time played with P990i, about few minutes, im able to know everything about the phone menus and configuration, and find it very very simple.
My husband has SE m600i, it has TODAY screen (appointments and shortcuts)which you can change it not like in P990i, nothing at all.. just the 4 icons.. which m600i has it also. So its only 4 icon and your wallpaper. is that nice?
One thing also, the battery drains so much. i think after 6 hours of having it. the battery gets low. so i need to recharge it.. sometime im school.. and i dont use it so much and gets low bat. i dont like that i need to recharge it after half day.
THe phone hungs and after 10 seconds it will restart and the phone will tell you( the phone restarts to give you good performance) same as SE M600i. i dont see good performance after 4 times of suprise restart while using some application on it. The phone call and sms is good.Its heavy..
As soon as i have the refund money, ( in norway, its legal to return internet products with in 2 weeks.) i will buy the HTC TYTN.. which i think i like more. Please correct me if there are things i should be aware of before buying the HTC TYTN. please help me with my decision..
TURNING ON AND TURNING OFF the SE p990i take time. i dont know why.
i bought my SE at
http://www.stretto.no/PartDetail.aspx?q=pl:1;p:1006728;b:59
Its available here in norway in many store. Im disappointed with SE p990
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zakkz
Joined: Apr 05, 2004
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ok - fair enough, point taken, but it just seems like I've spent an absolute lifetime waiting for this to come out. Was it really as early as October 05? It might have just been that I was reminiscing (sp?) over the leaked photo's and all of the rumors...
Either way, it still seems like ages, and I also really do think that they have been out-techied by their competitors |
SL33PYH34D
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
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From: Berkshire, UK
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On 2006-08-21 21:26:24, mhacxson wrote:
hi,
Im new here, Im from norway, and i bought a SE p990i and actually today i sent it back for refund.
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Whilst your points are vaild based on your experiences I think it is reasonable to say that the majority of us who have the P990i are pretty happy with it, and haven't really experienced major problems and the constant restarts you talk about.
I would agree though with you in respect of UIQ3 having been simplified, although UIQ has never been a vastlyl over complex GUI. I actually think the instinctive simplicity in UIQ is actually quite refreshing compared to the complexity of Windows Mobile. Much as it is quite fun to mess around with the Windows Mobile OS and tweak the registry, sometimes it is nice just to have a device which "just works" and I think UIQ fits the bill pretty well here.
I think some of the ideas seen in UIQ3 are there because SE at some point (and they may very well still plan to) extend Symbian/UIQ out further across their range much in the same way Nokia have done with S60, and if UIQ devices are ever to see any mass market traction, they need to be relatively simple to use.
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On 2006-08-21 21:28:18, zakkz wrote:
ok - fair enough, point taken, but it just seems like I've spent an absolute lifetime waiting for this to come out. Was it really as early as October 05? It might have just been that I was reminiscing (sp?) over the leaked photo's and all of the rumors...
Either way, it still seems like ages, and I also really do think that they have been out-techied by their competitors
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Yeah I must admit myself, October 2005 seems a long time ago, especially when we've all been waiting for the release with suh anticipation. |
Jah
Joined: Jun 22, 2003
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Have had my initial impressions of the P990 published at Palm247 22 August and here in the forum
I also mention my thoughts on the TyTN and M600 in comparison to the P990. These are initial thoughts and I suspect the P990 will continue to improve with firmware updates.
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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On 2006-08-22 09:47:17, Jah wrote:
snip... and I suspect the P990 will continue to improve with firmware updates.
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whereas the TyTN, and to some extent the M600, are stable, reliable and usable NOW!
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Posted: 2006-08-21 11:10
