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blackzeros
Joined: Jul 21, 2015
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23 mpx is interesting maybe a curved sensor , or maybe it'S 23,8 mpx omnivison sensor  ...
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-XYZ
Joined: Jul 26, 2012
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Water and dustproofing is a significant point if differentiation. Why get a Sony if you can get an IPhone. It does everything just as well and also has ridiculous good will with the apple brand.
Keep water and dustproofing, cause I enjoy having it. It's a nice thing to have over those smug iPhone users. |
ascariss
Joined: Apr 06, 2013
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It would be very unlikely that sony would opt to use another manufacturers sensor instead of it's own. While the sensor does have PDAF on it, well states support for PDAF, it doesn't mention how many PDAF points it has, Sony's IMX230 can use up to 192 PDAF points.
I don't think it is the curved sensor, i feel it might be still too large to fit into the thin body or the production yield is not high enough to warrant sony using it. I never could find a decent english review of the selfie cam, but did find this album, comparing the selfie cam to some casio selfie thingy and the HTC eye
https://www.flickr.com/photos/94645736@N06/sets/72157649187299950
Some of the sony shots are good but I feel the user may be using some of the enhancement features on the sony, not sure.
Still feel sony will opt for the IMX230, unless as mentioned before on here, sony has a new exclusive sensor on their hands just for the Z5? |
Gitaroo
Joined: Aug 17, 2013
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yup, they don't need to announce it publicly if they are not even planning to make it available for the other manufacturers for another year. |
josephnero
Joined: Mar 20, 2012
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From: Sanford North Carolina USA
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+1 for waterproof.
if you don't need it fine but for me since Z2 it became a must have
Also i knew i was right.As i said months ago Sony always keeps exclusive sensor for themselves.
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amirprog
Joined: Aug 22, 2013
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@ascariss
digi-wo are almost never wrong. i don't think 23mp is a typo.
I think that ip68 is a great feature but anything related to audio quality should be in higher priority for a company like sony that is expert in everything audio. why buy sony over iphone? best highest quality and loudest front speakers available on a mobile device, best camera on mobile (should be), best unique design, best battery in mobile, micro sd slot, camera button, xperia ui, android, better mic quality, better call speaker.
what do people do with a phone the most? audio: watch videos, play games, listen to music via headset and also through speakers, call via phone speaker, record audio, record video. audio audio and more audio. ip68 is a nice "oh shit" feature but with all due respect to the possibility of a phone dropping to a sea or the toilet, everything audio should be in higher priority for a phone as all USE audio features more then sailing with an xperia... audio should be sacred to sony.
bottom line: i think they better try to find other unique protection feature to have that does not interfere with audio, for a change, like some all toughened metal and front glass design that are more resistant to cracks and bends! better then water and dust proof by far. people bitch about mediocre speaker quality and front speaker quality, mediocre sound in video recording, etc. people bitch about phones cracking, shattering, bending, etc. not about phones drowning in the river.
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Xajel
Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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On 2015-07-24 17:05:51, difenbaker wrote:
I hope you wont mind me asking.... Why would you complain of Sony's designs? When apple or samsung repeats a design ... Noone seems to complain, and their phones still sell by the millions. But now that sony does it - you dont like it? How come?
...just curious.
cheers!
I definitely don't mind,
I love Sony designs, every gen. Looks even sexier and more polished than the one before, but what I know is that Sony isn't out of ideas, the company that was behind arc, s, z and others is more than capable to do more... What I was saying is that for 6 generations we have almost the same design with small (but brilliant) changes... These small changes reflect the internal/software changes also... Every gen. Is becoming more polished in both design and spec. Which is good, I don't have any complain about the design...
The only thing is: having this for 6 generations across 3 years... And the worst is the 2 flags per year
There was peoples saying that they dont want to change OP design, they just wanted better hardware And software... And I remember I was saying that the company that was behind Xperia arc, S & Z designs is more than capable of doing another exceptional design...
What I'm saying is that after 3/4 gen. We started to think that it's the time for a new design in all aspects... Everything new...
Other companies repeat their designs, every company do... But not for 6 generations like how Sony is doing now... Apple did it for 4 gens, Samsung and HTC for 3... But 6 ??
We need something new from all aspects, not just hardware or software... Even to physical design and features... A lot of guys were saying the same after Z2 and some from Z3... And now we have two more devices and we're still waiting
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thetube
Joined: May 06, 2015
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Well Sony can make an active variant anytime. I do not see the use of waterproofness in 90 percent of my life, but if it had better speakers I could hear my Z ultra and answer my phone  . It is nice but not a game changer, sorry. |
Shino03
Joined: Dec 22, 2008
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I think the waterproofness is subjective. As a medical student, I love washing my Z2 every now and then. My iphone-user friends could only dream.
About the speakers, the Z-series speakers are definitely not bad at all. It's still second best.
What I don't like Sony to do is follow the trend of slim phones. yes, make a slim phone but not for the flagship. I'd rather have a thicker phone say 8-9 mm if it will have better battery life and camera. |
amirprog
Joined: Aug 22, 2013
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From: Israel
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@thetube
+1
@Shino03
They could make active variant which is not a bad solution but the regular flag version should have protection feature that doesn't interfere with audio and make the devices more resistant to cracks, shatters and bends. sony emphasize design so they needs to give consumers more reasons to use their devices without a case without worrying so much that the device will get damaged. plus, people put their best money on such an expensive device. having the need to pay good money for a new front/back part because of a small crack is not a pleasant thing.
z series front speakers are more like third from comparisons i've seen its htc>nexus 6>sony, but anyway, they shouldn't settle for mediocrity, they should LEAD in that regard as htc is doing now and htc is not half of what sony represents as an audio company among others.
i definitely agree that they should stop following the trend of slim phones for a change, as you wrote, make it 8-9mm, not only battery and camera can benefit but with such design they can also make smaller top and bottom bezel to make the device more friendly in pocket, not less desirable then a silm phone and less prone to bending. |
Archdragoon
Joined: Mar 18, 2015
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+1 with a little bit thicker with best camera and battery. |
litoni
Joined: Apr 02, 2013
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you guys are ridiculous, if any of you have taken any business courses you would know performing such action would make Sony exit the market even sooner. Why would you want Sony to remove its competitive advantage? waterproof is like the ONLY thing they do better than its competitors....
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thetube
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Well that's funny cause waterproofness is not saving Sony. We are not saying cancel that feature. Add a bigger battery, better camera and better speakers, waterproofness will not be missed much by then. Samsung tried it with S5 and they saw it does not affect anything, S6 came around. |
josephnero
Joined: Mar 20, 2012
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From: Sanford North Carolina USA
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Sammy fans don't like waterproof,SD card is a big no no,Battery life?who needs it.yeah guyz its time to move on.and about water sealing not saving Sony.did speakers save HTC?We all very well know best camera did not save G4 and sure as hell know advertisement=sale. |
amirprog
Joined: Aug 22, 2013
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From: Israel
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@litoni
What you say is ridiculous, because what you say doesn't treat the problem. you want good sales? you advertise and make the device available everywhere and as soon as possible. is that alone enough? no. consumers won't choose sony because it is water and dust proof and other are not but for the whole package. not one good feature will save any company and the absence of it will certainly won't make sony exist the mobile business. unique feature is important and can help to sale more but ip68 just doesn't cut it. why and how to treat the problem? aim to be the best in everything, not just in one thing. not just in advertising. be the best in as much features as possible will give sony more sales. listening to consumers will give sony more sales. improving what consumers do more with a mobile phone should be in highest priority (audio) and will give sony more sales. regarding protection, no consumers bitch about phones stop working after a drown in the pool but people bitch about phones cracking, shattering, bending, detaching. treat THAT sony. thinking water and dust proof will save sony or give them more sales is ignoring the problem. i can assure you, best front speakers in mobile will give sony more sales over ip68. will that alone save sony? of course not! but nobody here suggested that anyway.
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