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Xajel
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Posted: 2015-07-24 09:08
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The problem is what, It has been now more than 3 years in a row that Sony is building the ultimate smartphone.. while we know there's no such thing, but Sony surprise us with a well made phone that has some major flaws, either not perfect camera, or not perfect Audio or flappy ports or less than perfect displays or not new enough SoC.. and when they get to the last one.. it was a faulty overheating one.. and now we're on the 5th generation of the same device with just upgrades...

Dear Sony ( and Sony Ericsson before )... we used to say WOW when we see your phones before.. and we miss that reaction for more than 3 years now... 5 flagships with almost the same design ?? and also the 6th is coming also !!

Sony missed the fleet, and keep wasting money on repeating the same delays and decision that make them keep missing the fleet more...

We know that any change will need months for every mobile company... but see even when ( we can't stop it now, we already spent too much money and efforts on this Z3+ and Z5 phones, and we need something to sell this quarter or shareholders will be mad ) comes... more peoples will be disappointed to the point ( no hope from Sony, and they're working on making this no-hope a slogan for them )...

If you need to change, then drop everything, break it... and create your new schedule, if you keep sticking to the lift-overs, then you will never ever change.. it will have a bad quarter profits I know... but a bad quarter or two is much much better than bad 3-5 years of no profits or more looses...
Gitaroo
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Posted: 2015-07-24 09:30
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Z2 was the ultimate phone from them IMO, better than all major competitors launching at the time. May not be the best in a single aspect but overall its a better device and still holding up well even until today. Too bad they screw up the launch so badly. Z3 may not be the best in specs vs the other competitors launching around the same time, but IMO is was the most polished and upgrade from Z2. Wide angle lens and insane battery life fastest memory improved ergonomics etc. Z3+ just got screwed by S810.
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thetube
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Posted: 2015-07-24 10:04
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On 2015-07-24 00:44:54, vivftp wrote:
Love these little flurries of rumours that crop up every once in a while

It's looking more and more likely that a new Ultra phone is on the way, and I am DAMNED excited by that. I'm just hoping that it won't skimp on any specs compared to the flagship. My Z Ultra is ready to be replaced.


Same with me. Better speakers, better camera and metal chassis is enough for me to upgrade. Sony taught me to be humble )). Wouldn't mind the fingerprint sensor. Hope the black version comes with bare metal frames.
Jamzy
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Posted: 2015-07-24 10:13
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On 2015-07-23 23:01:46, Xajel wrote:
Or, 810 is finally getting ready without throttling...

But for what ever reason, I can't find any logic in insisting on releasing a flagship with an SoC that will be replaced in two months with much better successor...



The 820 is not coming in two months.
You'll be lucky to even see it this year.
badassmam
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Posted: 2015-07-24 10:56
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Take a look at the Pocketnow video comparison of the Z3+ and S6. They showed that the Z3+ gives images equal to or better than the S6. The only criticism of the device was the overheating processor and that the S6 has a better display but nothing comes close to the S6 display anyway. With the exception of the Exynos and display, the Z3+ is better having used both for a while plus I am not a nerd, geek or someone who benchmarks everything. Try it and you will see how good it is, its funny how people comment and complain without ever touching the phone and how people say the S6 is the greatest. There are six people and counting from work who have dropped their Edge on the side and totally cracked the entire screen, they all changed for the regular S6.

Sony this year did much better in terms of sales, that is very commendable. Look back to what they wanted to achieve since the darker days and then tell me that they failed. They are on the right track, they have pulled themselves out of a deep hole. That's a big step forward for Sony, if the Z3+ had a new design then people would've taken more notice and something tells me that the Z5 will be just that, similar hardware with a fresh design and UI. 4GB RAM with SD810 is what people should settle for, no point wishing for much more because there just isn't the hardware out there. If the phone doesn't heat up then it will be awesome. Its coming soon, leaks and surprises. Be fair in judgement, don't write it off yet.
Shino03
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Posted: 2015-07-24 11:06
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Absolutely Agree. The Z series rocks. My black Z2 are eyed on even from Iphone 6 users from my school. Sony definitely have regained some of its lost fans from the days

About the processor, well Sony "probably" made some fixes already. AFAIK, they had this liquid cooling technology before on a Z series. The Z3+ was very thin so I don't think it made the cut
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nodarsixar
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Posted: 2015-07-24 13:39
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James Bond Phone

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thetube
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Posted: 2015-07-24 13:55
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Why is Z censored? Or is it not Z?
nodarsixar
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Posted: 2015-07-24 14:03
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Maybe
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blackzeros
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Posted: 2015-07-24 14:37
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spectre's world premier is @26 november in london.i saw the last trailer but not too much info about smart products.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTDaET-JweU

0.24 girl with smartphone.
2.11 guy with a tablet(?).
and several shown with round watches... maybe it's smart.
ascariss
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Posted: 2015-07-24 16:38
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On 2015-07-24 13:55:58, thetube wrote:
Why is Z censored? Or is it not Z?


Of course it is Z, while else would they leave the 5 unblurred, it has to be Z5.
difenbaker
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Posted: 2015-07-24 17:05
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On 2015-07-24 09:08:22, Xajel wrote:
Dear Sony ( and Sony Ericsson before )... we used to say WOW when we see your phones before.. and we miss that reaction for more than 3 years now... 5 flagships with almost the same design ?? and also the 6th is coming also !!


I hope you wont mind me asking.... Why would you complain of Sony's designs? When apple or samsung repeats a design ... Noone seems to complain, and their phones still sell by the millions. But now that sony does it - you dont like it? How come?

...just curious.


cheers!
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thetube
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Posted: 2015-07-24 17:31
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I think the design is superior to other Android OEMs. What I miss is exclusive feature. Waterproofness is not my thing.

Lumia 1020 had the camera
Note has the S pen
Htc has the sound
S series have fingerprint health and splitscreen
iPhone is the iphone. Loads of apps accessories hype.

Sony?
vivftp
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Posted: 2015-07-24 17:54
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On 2015-07-24 17:31:21, thetube wrote:
I think the design is superior to other Android OEMs. What I miss is exclusive feature. Waterproofness is not my thing.

Lumia 1020 had the camera
Note has the S pen
Htc has the sound
S series have fingerprint health and splitscreen
iPhone is the iphone. Loads of apps accessories hype.

Sony?


Sony has the waterproofing and dust resistance. Just because it isn't your particular cup of tea doesn't mean you can exclude it in such a comparison.
amirprog
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Posted: 2015-07-24 19:12
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Digi-wo mentions that the new devices will have 23mp camera: http://www.digi-wo.com/thread-32993-1-1.html
if true, the sensor is not imx230 (21 mp).

i agree with thetube.
to be honest, i'd like sony to loose the water and dust proof if that means superior quality front speakers and microphone sound! these 2 features don't seem to go well together (water and dust proof and audio)... sony as a company with iconic audio products should give it more priority over water and dust proof... makers of speakers, receivers, headphones, music players, etc. seriously? they should put the best of sony when it comes to speakers quality and LEAD in that and other features and drop ip68...
what is sony?
video, audio, design, playstation, mobile, compact, ... water and dust proof? give me a break. it is the last in that list when it comes to what sony represents! and should be in much lower priority then front speakers. no brainer!
believe me, more people will appreciate highest quality and loudest front speakers possible over water and dust proof. a bigger selling point! they can differentiate themselves with other feature that doesn't go against other feature!
sony, do you read?
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