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Muhammad-Oli
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plankgatan
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ok. that i didnt know... but im more talking about some serious hardcore Nvidia GPU chips...someone ???
(example, small laptop capacity)
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@mib, you are in the communication and entertainment categories but not the information category (re the Mace article carkitter referenced). Hence an AIO for you doesn't fall into the dead zone and includes any old non-qwerty non-touchscreen device. It's still an AIO, but not in terms of the dead zone that Mace talks about.
You write off the whole "information" class of user as old fuddy duddies clinging desparately to the touchscreen, but here's the thing:
1. Even if it's only us oldies, we have 20-30 years (I'm 40, not 70) or more of active participation in the gadget market still left in us. AND our number are growing as a percentage of the population. And we often have better disposable income than the young people who generally dominate the entertainment and communication categories. So it would be quite short sighted of manufacturers to ignore this group. It is not a fading market segment by any means
2. But as it happens it's not only us oldies. There is also a strong element in the youth population who are interested in touchscreens. iPhone demonstrates this. Now it's up to manufacturers to inject some life back into the touchscreen interface (or lose marketshare to Apple)
3. There are young people interested in the information segment also, it's not only middle aged business men who want to be able to type on a device with a keyboard (real or virtual). It's one thing to write a large text message using T9, another thing to write a 5 page report while sitting on the train. For the latter a qwerty of some kind is considerable more useful and less demanding, especially for people reared on computer keyboards (including most young adults today, who learnt to use a keyboard well before they had their own phone)
4. Your view that the only sensible way to interface with a mobile device is to thumb madly backwards and forwards pressing buttons one handed is only one of a range of preferred interface methods. You seem to believe your preferences are representative of the majority of mobile device users but I'm sorry to tell you this is not the case 
Your view is a common one, but not the majority. It is just one of a range of diverse interface preferences.
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On 2008-08-19 11:04:12, mib1800 wrote:
What constitute an AIO depends on which angle you look. At this stage (for most people anyway), an AIO is a phone with great camera, music player, multimedia, email, web and maybe gps. I highly doubt a qwerty or a touchscreen are over-riding factors in determining an AIO.
Cam, music, mm = Entertainment
email, web, gps = Communication
TS or Qwerty usually signal an Information Management device.
Add these to the above and you have an AIO. Otherwise you have a common or garden smartphone.
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On 2008-08-19 11:39:22, plankgatan wrote:
ok. that i didnt know... but im more talking about some serious hardcore Nvidia GPU chips...someone ???
(example, small laptop capacity)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-08-19 10:40 ]
Nvidia are no longer going to produce mobile GPUs but the entire processor. The Nvidia processor that will launch on WM phones next years is the APX2500. Its got some impressive specs, a search on google should get you some results.
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Thank YOU carkitter
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carkitter
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 We said similar things only I took ages to write it cause I'm watching the NZ track cyclists competing in the Madison...
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Muhammad-Oli
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That's on now? Damn, I'm stuck writing an essay!
EDIT: Ah another disappointing result.
EDIT again: I should say I'm stuck "writing an essay"
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pinguino1
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Does this only happens to me?
For years I'm been carrying my laptop in my bag, my PDA in my pocket, my Cell in my belt, my camera on my neck, my gps in my car, my music player in my shirt pocket, dozens of sticky notes in my pants, my digital tape recorder on one wrist, my watch in the other...
I desperate wanted a tech SWISS KNIFE that can do it all.
VIVA LA DEAD ZONE!!!
Not because I wanted a huge MB, MHZ, nanoseconds I JUST WANT A SOLUTION TO MY LIFE
It's that XPERIA?
Anyone with me?
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carkitter
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On 2008-08-20 03:36:37, pinguino2 wrote:
VIVA LA DEAD ZONE!!!
Not because I wanted a huge MB, MHZ, nanoseconds I JUST WANT A SOLUTION TO MY LIFE
It's that XPERIA?
Anyone with me?
Well I can't guarantee you'll find a device, but I can guarantee you've found some fellow dead zone inhabitors!
Welcome to Esato!
Xperia X1 may do the trick.
Apple iPhone is the best device I know of as a laptop replacement which will do alot of what you decribed.
As Dogmann said, there's always an intentional compromise built in. Now we know why; perhaps some DeBono style lateral thinking could deminish the dead zone?
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there are a few devices that match your requiremets. Actually there is a plethora of devices in the dead zone, but it depends how close to centre you want to go. For example do you need tv-out? if so X1 is not close enough to centre. If you don't need tv out, and you like the X1 formfactor and ergonomics, then X1 is your baby!
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pinguino1
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@carkitter
As you can see in my wish list the iPhone is the MOST REMOTE thing to my swiss knife.
As a laptop replacement if I can sync do my outlook, contacts, task, calendar and edit my MS office word, excel, powerpoint and a couple of graphic programs I will be more than happy.
See why I need a real querty ?
The rest of my wish list is already in the Xperia.
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max_wedge
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On 2008-08-20 04:51:58, pinguino2 wrote:
See why I need a real querty ?
I'm sure mib will argue with you on that one.
He's the king of the one handed t-niners, reckons he can t-9 faster than anyone can type on a qwerty.
I don't know if I believe him though.
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carkitter
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@pinguino2
Market research I've seen online says that 40% of US iPhone version 1 owners use their iPhone as a laptop replacement, a useage that has always been touted by PDA manufacturers but never delivered on as you and others still carry both. With the 3G version 2 and the new App store, some of those requirements of yours may be catered for.
I take your point regarding the ergonomics of a TS qwerty vs a proper keyboard, I can only say try one out and see...
It would seem like a WM device is best for you though.
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l337h1um
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Hi everyone. I joined this forum just for this topic.
I'm eagerly awaiting the X1 as well. I need it so that I can show it to my friends thereby pointing out the glaring deficiencies of the iPhone. 
But really, I have read every single post on this topic. Roffle, you guys fight too much. I think we all just have to agree that the X1 is a very kick-arse, attractive device.... but also agree that there are other very kick-arse, attractive devices that are just as good, and that different devices suit different people better.
I just want SE to hurry up and release this thing, because it happens to suit my needs very well. And it looks cool. And I need something new to satisfy my expensive and unnecessary gadget craving.....
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