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hellogoodbye
Joined: Mar 18, 2006
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Bring The Light! Avmax!  |
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se_dude
Joined: Nov 07, 2007
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Why are SE charging 650 euros for Anzu? This is ridiculous. |
tranced
Joined: Jan 19, 2006
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From: Santo Domingo, wonDeRland
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Cheap, isn't it?
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smclion102
Joined: Aug 12, 2010
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Not even SE fans are gona buy X12 if the price is so fu*king high  €650  for an
Old hardware
+ Dont FORGET SONY ERICSSON ALSO DELAYS OS..what if they give 2.1 and wait for 2.3 for another few months..
Old hardware + no MT + if 2.3 is delayed ="EPIC FAIL"
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avmaxfan
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
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Liar ?
Really ?
And because of what ? Just because Eldar said so ?
Hmm I wonder since when people started taking him seriously again. When he tweeted about 12mp SE android a few months back, most just wrote him off as "not credible anymore".
And now everyone's believing him as if he's the SE CEO.
And why all this "insider" info coming out only after Eldar's article ? Hmmm
Wonder where all the insiders were when i first posted the specs 2-3 months back.
Anyways to all who are dissapointed I'm gonna say what I said earlier - Have patience and WAIT for the official announcement. The future is not dark. And yeah, even after all this "insider" info leak lately I stand by what I have been saying.
And yea to the gurus - I hope you know that Android or rather smartphones in General is all about the high end. The flagship Android phones are the ones which sell the most and make money for the companies. Eg Droid, Droid X, Desire, Galaxy S , X10 to name a few.
We have almost NO medium/low range Android "star" seller.
So why would SE focus on mid/low range again?
Go figure
Oh and its sad to see some people think a few "sources" know more than the SE CEO himself. 
"Big Surprise" "Cutting Edge device. ahead of competition" Hmmmmm
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NoTnERb
Joined: Aug 26, 2007
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I am not for or against avmaxfan but exactly my thoughts.
Hmm I wonder since when people started taking him seriously again. When he tweeted about 12mp SE android a few months back, most just wrote him off as "not credible anymore".
And now everyone's believing him as if he's the SE CEO.
People would laugh off eldar but NOW they take him seriously, riiight. I'm just gonna listen to everybody talk and WAIT FOR THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT then we can talk and start bashing if needed.
thanks to avmaxfan though for bringing a little life to this rumors thread, it may be true, it may be a lie but still, thanks avmaxfan. from 1000+ pages from the 2007 rumors thread, to 200 this year, still, i considered the 200 pages worth of rumors to be really fun and I'm looking forward to a bright SE future.
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gauravsali
Joined: Oct 14, 2006
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this thread is becoming more like argument thread than rumour one! |
Shino03
Joined: Dec 22, 2008
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From: Pearl of the Orient Seas
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I believe in avmax cause if the others are right, I have no other choice but to move to Samsung and I don't want that to happen. |
Shino03
Joined: Dec 22, 2008
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I believe in avmax cause if the others are right, I have no other choice but to move to Samsung and I don't want that to happen. |
RandomCarpet
Joined: Sep 08, 2003
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From: Bulgaria
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I think it's highly unlikely even for  to release a refresh (not true successor) to its flagship with roughly the same specs more that 12 months after its release.
If X12 was just a refresh ala T68m -> T68i; T300 -> T310; T610 -> T630; W800 -> W810; K800 -> K810; K850 -> C902
It should have already been selling for 2-3 months now. Otherwise this is just a suicide for .
All refresh phones I mentioned above were released no later than 7 months after the release of the phone they replace |
yuunanase
Joined: Sep 30, 2006
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On 2010-11-16 09:19:45, RandomCarpet wrote:
I think it's highly unlikely even for to release a refresh (not true successor) to its flagship with roughly the same specs more that 12 months after its release.
If X12 was just a refresh ala T68m -> T68i; T300 -> T310; T610 -> T630; W800 -> W810; K800 -> K810; K850 -> C902
It should have already been selling for 2-3 months now. Otherwise this is just a suicide for .
All refresh phones I mentioned above were released no later than 7 months after the release of the phone they replace
How about X1 -> X2?
Thats 13 months.
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Lollylost100
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On 2010-11-16 05:28:46, avmaxfan wrote:
We have almost NO medium/low range Android "star" seller.
So why would SE focus on mid/low range again?
Go figure
Maybe because of what you just said? There is no mid range best seller. Whats the point in going into high range if there isn't a chance of making it to the top?
By mentioning and finding spec I wouldnt call saying all possible configurations and hoping one of them is half correct. |
avmaxfan
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
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In business there is always one thing you need to be sure of and that is "feasibility". Before launching any product you need to find out if it is feasible or not.
And Lollylost, what are you trying to say? That Samsung, HTC, and others who are making great high end phones are incapable at making good mid range Androids ? And that will work some magic and sell a huge number of low/mid end Android phones when all the other bigger and better at Android companies have not been able to ?
The X10 was fairly successful in the high end, at least a lot more successful than would have expected even with so many drawbacks. Then why would the be so stupid and think " Hey! Lets make low/mid Androids, so what if all the others are not making much money in this category, we can work our magic and make billions  " !!!!!!!!!!!!
Android is all about the high end. The mid/low end Android market is limited at best. All the Android phone makers make millions on their high end flagship phones NOT mid end. Sure mid end phones add to profits but they are NOT the actual cash cow.
And "IF" as you are saying, the mid/low end Android market was so huge that SE could make lots of money then why did not the other Android makers follow this strategy ? Moto, HTC, Samsung are definitely much better and experienced "Android" vendors than .
Are they idiots then to concentrate on high end if the mid/low end market was so lucrative ?
And please. Do not give the example of X1 and X2. We all know about how sad WM 6 was. And it was not as if the X2 was a generation behind its WM6 competitors. And the segment was not even half as competitive as Android is today.
All I'm saying is SE knows that they can survive with good high end phones (not just SE but every single Android maker) and NOT by selling dozens of low/mid Android phones.
Android is a direct competitor to iOS and WP7 and both of these OSes are "premium high end phone OS". And so is Android primarily. Period.
P.S. I am not questioning the credibility of Eldar, or the other "insiders" but just asking you a simple question. Do you think will make such a stupid decision and dig their own grave after straight 3 quarters of profit and so much cost cutting and efforts ?
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rss_ndrsn
Joined: Aug 27, 2005
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@lolli
I could not disagree more. Don't you people get it that there will never be a low-end/mid-end Android top seller because Android is an open source OS. Anyone company could make an Android phone if they wanted to; thus, giving people wide array of phones to choose from. As a result, an even more tougher competition among Android phone makers.
The only way to the top is through making high-end Android phones.
It is not only the competition from other Android phone makers that SE should think about but also from WM7 and iOS devices which are all high-end. WM7 was announced last month along with several devices which are now available and more to come in the coming months. Although the IOS market share has been stagnant, still iPhone 4 must not be counted out. It is the most sought after smartphone of the year and it is still hard to get one today because of limited availablity. Yes, Android OS market share is growing really fast but then again, these two other manufacturers should not be left out.
Beside, top manufacturers are competing to get a big market share in the US (the biggest). Do you think a plethora of low-end/high-end devices from would be the best strategic solution? Nu-uh. Maybe if SE wants to go bankrupt.
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pauvincent
Joined: Oct 17, 2010
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me too if no cutting edge phone comes out off any time soon i might buy a iphone 4 but i hope really has something for us. Like i said before lets wait fotr the OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT from then we'll really know for our sake i hope it will be a good one |
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