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ALL Esato members please please post your favourite SE phone! (shocking results inside!!!) |
EastCoastStar
Joined: Dec 07, 2003
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1. k700i (in my dreams...)
2. p910 (in my dreams...even more)
3. t610/t630 (in my hand)
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Draqula
Joined: Jun 22, 2002
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T630 |
uncle
Joined: Feb 14, 2002
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From: Slovenia
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I'll go with my P800!!! |
milmino
Joined: Jun 14, 2004
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On 2005-01-09 22:50:44, __spc__ wrote:
Looks like  got that BMW stylist in to f*ck-*p their latest range of products!
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you cant be serious, you dont like beamers?? I love their designs!
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ilovesony
Joined: Jan 09, 2005
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K700i is my choice for the best ever phone
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vanquish
Joined: Mar 20, 2003
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Same here! Beautiful designs, i think they are brill.
Their choice of designers for their marketing ploys are great aswell. Check out this link:
http://www.theonly1.co.uk/1/s[....],5039,,00.html?site=&DealerID=
really beautiful website!
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jadeparfait
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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From: Bangalore, India
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I hv never seen a cellfone as classy as d :se: t610 till date. By functionality n featurewise its an icon.
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janahan
Joined: Jan 13, 2003
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The BEST phone is the S700i (I have never tried the K700i, but compared to the T610 series, this is awesome)
Tie for #2 is P800 and the T68
Now let me give you a justification of why I chose the S700i as phone of choice. I wasnt always a Ericsson fan.
(sorry for the long post)
Nokia 8110
My first ever phone was the Nokia 8110 (actually a 8146), nicknamed the "Nokia Banana" for its shape, and also appeared in the Original Matrix. That was a revolutionary phone that changed Nokia's fortunes and helped them start to catch up and eventually overtake Ericsson in the GSM market, previous Nokia's were "bricks". It also used a Li-ion battery, which admittedly wasnt the best implementation (90min talk/70hour standby), but was indeed a revolution in other ways in that it was stylish and desirable, yet packed with features. I still have it, and it still works (changed the ariel tho).
The lesson of the 8110 is something many companies should think about. Ericsson was in the position Nokia is in now.
Nokia 6150
I bought this phone because of its Infra-Red capability for use with my PalmPilot, and the dual band. It was a toss between this and the Er SH888. although it looked ok, imagine my utter dissapointment when I realised it DIDNT have a proper modem built in. Even via Infra Red. it needed the Nokia DataSuite (costs money at the time) installed to use the phone for wireless data, and the DataSuite came with the cable anyway. I just could not use it with my palmtop, and the infra red on this phone was relegated to use only as a means to send business cards to the Palm, and other Nokia phones. I did dabble with Ringtones, but only allowed one to be stored. And the arial broke, battery also had to be replaced twice in 1 and a half years. This phone was the first of many Nokia dissapointments.
Er R320s
My first Ericsson Phone. I still have it, and its in very good shape. As a phone it performed well. It had extremely high build quality and call quality, and I have used it abroad, and it just worked, also had good data features (at last). But it also did dissapoint me in many ways, namly poor phonebook support, extremely slow operation (try typing a text message, which made me purchase a Chatboard), and that god awefull arial, despite it worked well.
Nokia 8210
I had this as a second phone (for my Pay as you go chip). The only good thing going about this phone was the small size (still unbeatable), and fast operation. everything else was poor. It crashed regularily, and had an awefull build quality (screen).
Nokia 6210
This SHOULD have been my ideal phone. Large screen, good features. Voice Dial that worked. Conservative, yet moderately stylish looks. Extremely good PIM features (synchronised with Outlook well, and had 500 names with three numbers each, plus email) and good wap/data features, and decent battery life. And SMS folders.
Instead, the experience with this phone and Nokia's Customer Services put me off Nokia for life. Within 3 weeks of purchase, the signal kept dropping frequently, then one month after purchase, during a call the phone got pretty warm, and the LCD screen cracked. Tried to get that repaired under warrenty, was accused of dropping the phone, and was told that I would have to pay (I have never dropped a phone in my life).
Luckily for me, i knew a friend who worked for Nokia, and he got me a replacement screen, and when he came to fit it, he noticed how one of the screws holding the original screen was not screwed in properly, which was what caused the screen to crack in the first place. He said this was a common problem with the phone. He also did a firmware update to fix the reception problems. I was happy again... for 3 weeks. then the reception problems happened again. Called Nokia, and was told it was my SIM card. Changed the SIM. Still problems. Nokia told me it was my area and provider. Opened up to phone to investigate (loose connector etc). Found that the internal arial was screwed in too tight and it had litterally cut through the traces on the board. Called Nokia, and explained what had happened, and was told suprise surprise that since i opened the phone, it was no longer in Warranty. I took legal advice on this, and at the same time, opened up the phone again, and used a pencil to polish the traces which fixed the reception problems. This became a fortnightly task, to open up the phone and polish the traces. Eventually, after a lot of pressure, Nokia offered to replace the phone (with a 6310). However, i had simply had enough, and asked for a refund, which they arranged via T-Mobile. I decided to go for an Ericsson again, the T68m, which i got for free.
Had Nokia provided a good service I may have never went to Ericsson.
Er T68m
A revolutionary phone. Colour screen, small size, and great features. I really loved the way it handled Delivery reports, and names, and numbers. And to throw in a POP3 Email client too! And the Rubber Base! Certainly had style and was packed with features. Predictive Text that worked, and EMS (far better than Nokia's Picture Message solution) The only problem was it liked to crash at times, and it was slow.
But the postives outweighed the cons. I populated the phonebook by picking up my Palm Pilot and beaming the entire phonebook to the phone. Even my Nokia never handled that (kept asking if i wanted to save each item). Voice control was awesome.
Imagine my annoyance, when one month after purchase, the T68i came out. I was horrified... until i found out they would upgrade my phone firmware for free! and i was stunned by the difference! it was still a bit slow, but much improved to be usable. And i was able to use the Chatboard still! Lousy SMS tone though. The T68m was too loud, and the T68i was too quiet!
In the end, this phone, I have upgraded the firmware so many times (I now have a DIV Cable, and can download FW and flash it myself). With the last firmware (R8A), it was pure perfection. It even added new games, and features each time, and improved speed.
Also Ericsson has to be applauded for customer service. I had a fault develop on the screen. The Service center replaced this under warrenty without any fuss, while i waited.
I really liked this phone.
T300
This phone i purchased to replace my Nokia 8210 as a second phone. It was a nice functional phone, and had fairly good features. The polyphonic ringtones were nice, but way too quiet, i used the buzzer most fo the time. also the 250 number phone book was a bit sucky. Morphon was unappealing, and memory was appaling. I felt it was too much of a scalled down T68i, and the poly/morphon was just a gimmick. However, it did well as the second phone. I had managed to update this to a T310 firmware, which improved it somewhat. But nothing special abotu this phone.
P800
Another revolution of a phone. I loved this phone, and it will always hold a place in my heart. It performed great as a phone. Was extremely customisable. It synched with outlook well, and its SMS handling was nice, especially the way it would retry if the send failed. (though i prefered the T68's delivery report mechanism). It was even a better PDA than my PalmPilot. And its handwritting recognition actually worked. Its disadvantages were, Lack of T9 in flip closed (bad for me, as I like to send text whilst on the train). Its flip was easily broken (i went through 4 during the time i had this phone. the P9xx improved it) and lack of profiles. Its cam was nothign to talk about. It was also too big.
The P9xx series did solve many of the issues though.
the ring was LOUD (especially when i used the old Ericsson Mixed Ringtone)
I have just replaced this phoen with my S700i
T610
I took my sisters T610 to replace the T300 as a second phone for my PAYG SIM. This was a really nice and smart phone, and although not so much of a revolution. But shown how style can be mixed with features. I also liked its bluetooth handling. But felt the ringtones were a bit on the quiet side. It was also initially slow in text, and Java, but a small firmware update did solve that, though again, it was not perfect.
I felt this phone had a lot of features, certainly more than any phone in its class at the time. And really did a lot for the user experience. However, i felt that although it had some features that were groundbreaking (Bluetooth FTP, enhanced Headset compatibility, adaptive T9, etc), it missed some features which coudl have very easily been included that would have made it perfect.
The first was when performing an address lookup, you can only search on the first letter, not the first two or three. This was a feature i liked on the Nokia 6210, and it also appeared on the P800 in flip closed mode.
Second was lack of a proper dedicated loudspeaker which resulted in quieter ringtones, and no loudspeaker mode.
The third issue was lack of storage for addresses whcih made it a poor replacement to my P800.
Forth, they removed a feature from the T68 which allowed u to push and hold the joystick to the right to select the first shortcut (select profile in my case), and made the "up" arrow go to wap. it woudl not have been so bad had all this been programmable.
Fifth, its Java was lacking in features. As a programmer i was always frustrated.
Sixth, Camera.. 320x200???? you are really having a laugh!
Seventh, Memory. 2MB?????? for a phone which had so much ability like picture CLI, camera, and stuff, screwing it down with just 2MB????? even the Nokia 7210 had 4Mb.
However, i guess it was good enough for the majority, and did serve well to introduce a LOT of people to Sony Ericsson. But it felt a bit cheap. Whereas the T68 and the P800 were high-end phones when they were released, the T610 was marketed as a more midrange phone sometimes (because it was free), and in many ways i would agree, since for its features which made it look good on paper, it frustrated you with its fallings, which stopped you from using some of its features.
For all the T610 fans, I am sorry for being picky on this. But for a while this (and the Z600, and T630) where SE's top end non-symbian phones, and it was truely lacking in some really important thigns that prevented it from deserving the top end title. I was concerned that SE was doing a Nokia again. However, it was a good phone, and i did occasionally use it as a main phone (when the p800 was simply impractical)
S700i
My current phone. Now my world has come in a full circle. Despite having many phones, some powerfull, some stylish, some real turkeys, and some frankly ordinary, I have not achieved the perfection that I once had with the Nokia 8110. There was always a negative on all phones that put me off from calling it perfection.
The S700i is perfect. It had enough of the Symbian type features to make me easily transition from the P800 (Contacts, calendar, tasks, etc). Its also FAST. All the non-symbian Ericsson phones I have had before was sluggish on Text. This is very fast, with no lag. It's JAVA support is awesome! (no more morphon crap for me any more!). MP3 rings, loudspeaker, megapixel cam, video, ample memory etc.
Also despite having a LOT of features, its features actually work well! The radio is very good! The MP3 player sounds great, with great bass and treble. All the little picky things i picked up on the T610 is no longer here on this phone. It looks, feels, and operates as a Top End phone.
If i was to find anything lacking in this phone, I am only finding really pedantic things like:
- lack of SMTP authentication (T-Email server requires this).
- phone book limited to 510 numbers (not names). But no big issue for me, i am only using 265, just a comparison to the Nokia 6210, and the P800.
- Lack of SMS folders, ala the 6210, but again, no big deal as i use FMA to archive it.
But its an awesome phone, and I finally feel the magic of owning perfection, soemthing i felt when i was having the Nokia 8110.
The Moral.
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The moral of all this to others, and to SE/Nokia is, when choosing a phone, make sure it does what you want it to do. No company is perfect.
Customer service is king. Poor customer service can make you loose a customer, especially when you accuse customer of things he/she didnt do (my expereince with Nokia on the 6210). my earlier SE phones DID need firmware updates. However the fact that SE done it with ease, and treated me as a valued customer made a big difference.
When creating a top end phone, and adding new features, dont skimp on important things like memory (like done with the T610). The S700i has features that really should have, and could have been in on the T610.
Owned (order of purchase): Nok 8110, Nok 6150, Nok 8210, Nok 6210, Eric r320s, Eric T68m, SE T300, SE P800, SE T610, SE S700i, Mot V3i, SE K800i |
saifullahbeg
Joined: Sep 26, 2004
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1. S700i
2. P910
3. T610 |
Ing. FijoK
Joined: Sep 11, 2004
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1. S700
2. K700i
3. K500i
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vanquish
Joined: Mar 20, 2003
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its back by popular demand!
i shall sort out the new results later on tommorow.
be excited esato
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santo911
Joined: Oct 06, 2004
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Now, p900, its price, its features... Its the best phone now imo
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mrao
Joined: Nov 11, 2004
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Having used the k700i for a little over a month now, i must say this is my favourite se phone. Im not much of a music fan so the 41 mb is more than sufficient for me. And the features are simply awesome.
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whizkidd
Joined: May 14, 2004
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I concur- My friend!
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Posted: 2005-01-10 06:26
