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Well, it always depends on what kind of politics, what strength of politics, thats the problem. Whether its talking about your local MP or having a heated debate on Bush's decision on June 23rd 2004 regarding X...
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scotsboyuk
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@Meths
You make a good point actually. I can understand why some people would like to discuss politics here if it is with their friends, but when that is all that some ever post ...
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It should just go. Im sick of politics everywhere, GO HERE! www.politicsforum.org.
The odd political discussion isnt bad, but its out of hand now.
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axxxr
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On 2005-07-13 17:10:05, methylated_spirit wrote:
If you DO do politics, you dont do much else...it swallows you up!
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Maybe so for some people but as you know i do like politics and i also contribute a lot here on esato.
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absinthebri
Joined: Feb 11, 2004
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I'm all for didcussions on a wide variety of issues.
Perhaps there should be a seperate 'room' for politics/religion (somewhere people have to choose to go, not merely get sucked in to).
I'm not sure how you can police the forum unless all non-mobil discussion was banned. And I think even the die-hard phone buffs would concede that would leave quite a dry forum.
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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-13 15:50:51, DJcreamz wrote:
A new rule should be brought in, people that try to provoke a reaction from someone in a number of differant threads should be banned, its simply causing threads to be ruined and i for one am bored of it
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I guess you'd be the first to be banned then. In the past 24 hours you first of all you pick on me for quoting in responses ( I ask you!) and you know all about the second "attack".
Now, I can accept you did not intend to offend me (and no actual offence was taken) but I think it demonstrates how having a 'bit of fun', or whatever, can antagonise a situation.
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axxxr
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On 2005-07-13 20:07:36, absinthebri wrote:
I'm all for didcussions on a wide variety of issues.
Perhaps there should be a seperate 'room' for politics/religion (somewhere people have to choose to go, not merely get sucked in to).
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Thats what i have suggested that a seperate Room be made for Politics/Religious topics ect..Maybe even a Password login so that only those members can enter who know what the rules are what kind of discussions they are joining,new moderators may be needed for this..Anyone who is not interested in Politics can that way stay in the mobiles only areas.
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jcwhite_uk
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Thats what i have suggested that a seperate Room be made for Politics/Religious topics ect..Maybe even a Password login so that only those members can enter who know what the rules are what kind of discussions they are joining,new moderators may be needed for this..Anyone who is not interested in Politics can that way stay in the mobiles only areas.
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Thats not a bad idea. People will then have seperate rules for the poltical/ religion area and the discussions there cant spill out into the phone areas.
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Vlammetje
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On 2005-07-13 20:07:36, absinthebri wrote:
Perhaps there should be a seperate 'room' for politics/religion (somewhere people have to choose to go, not merely get sucked in to).
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Sounds familiar  However since making this suggestion to you a while back I've done some thinking on it.
I do believe it's a good idea for the 'US elections' type of threads.... however political issues rarely start out as political issues. They usually seem to start out as 'actuality, things seen on the news' and turn to political motives behind the news....... I can see where many people might have an opinion on the former that they wish to express.... however quickly pull out when the topic turns to the latter. Where should we have those kind of threads??? Move them around the place as they grow? That'll be a welcome addition to the moderators daily chores I'm sure 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's not politics that is the problem, political threads are just a symptom of the underlying problem, which imho is this: people who simply cannot behave when confronted with opinions not like their own.
And to deal with this problem imho requires something other than rooting out the topic of discussion. It requires rooting out the bad manners and if necessary the people that repeatedly display them.
That way the crowd that stays behind might even resort to civilised discusion...
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absinthebri
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I agree with Marga. Again.
It's not the politics that's the problem; it's the people.
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scotsboyuk
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@Vlamm
Once more you speak words of reason. 
Time after time we see these issues devolve in arguments where the same people seem unable to tolerate dissenting voices from their own. Furthermore some people seem to feel the need to make political comments at just about every opportunity.
I think the idea of a seperate forum is actually a really good idea if these threads must exist here in the first place.
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EastCoastStar
Joined: Dec 07, 2003
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okay. i didnt read through this whole thread. its all repeating its self all over from the other threads. i just wanted to throw in the fact that everyone isnt going to be happy, we all know that. it wouldnt bother me eather way we go, but honestly, if we keep these and put them in the GARBAGE area, it shouldnt be a problem. as laffen said "it says read at your own risk", so i think anything should be okay there. |
wapchimp
Joined: Jun 09, 2002
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I have no problems with anyone talking about their beliefs or religion, or whatever.
But this is a mobile phone forum and laffen/mods should rule this board how they want. If such topics and comments cause trouble, ban them or delete them. This is a 'decomacracy' to such a state- freedom of speech etc, which I agree with.
But here comments can erased, where in the 'real world' others can hear what you say.
Personally I think a decision needs to be made, such as making esato mobile content only, and deleting the garbage forums to deter such comments and spammers who post the majority of stuff there.
On my own board I wont stand for any shit that is not relevant |
Supa_Fly
Joined: Apr 16, 2002
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Not sure if my opinion would matter.
I love this forum, even though I'm a little less of a SonyEricsson fan of lately - needed a cheap smartphone with EDGE & 850Mhz band. But I still love this forum, and many of the people whom come here.
Some great threads have arrised here in the last few years.
Philipean (sorry if misspelled), Canadian, American etc, and people have gotten along incredibly. THe odd fanboy fanatic arrives and wants to rule the forums but its just an occassional cameo appearance anyway.
Politics & religion:
Politics has a bad effect on all people even within the same region or country. Here in Canada, most of us arent so passionate of politics until we're all screwed. In other country's its almost a matter of life or death. Policing forums of this type would be almost daunting as were all human even the moderators, and moderators whom live in the same country or have the same religion may or may not understand what is mentioned. They may side with one individual or common group or another. Deleted posts or banning may be seen as a moderator taking sides; and only lead to more misrepresentation & more issues.
Religion is a very sensitive topic. Some religions are completely woven into the vary fabric of ones soul, daily life, and more importantly to some religions; their culture. When an insult to one's religion, or even non acceptance of that religion is stated or demonstrated; it is seen as an insult. Not on a personal level but also on a cultural, national, even racial level -> that there is cause for fighting. This is almost impossible to see whom is right or wrong; remember the tower of babel - were basically devided by language & religion. All of us should be open to others religion, political beliefs and respect one another; hey more power can come to you from this basic act. Maybe even meet a life long brother/friend, or a mate. Unfortunately some people, dare I say cultures - Im willing to bet I'm wrong here and its my ignorance of not going to other country's to experience every culture first hand to know weather or not this is the case (but at least I acknowledge my fault here) - may not allow for this.
This display's why I feel religion & politics have no place in any worldwide community; especially when it comes to cellular or regional provider forums. I'm not saying its wrong, but given the current worldwide state of affairs its gonna be a huge mess that may cause more friction amongs us.
I do hope masseur and others here are able to make in the whole community's eyes what will eventually be the right decision; whichever that may be.
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mince-inside
Joined: May 09, 2004
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From: Made in Alnwick living in Scot
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I reckon anything should be able to be discussed here, at the end of the day the non-mobile phone stuff is usually based on current affairs eg Spoting events, Elections, bombings or wars.
People will always have different opinions on threads be they high brow, ignorant or somewhere in-between. These variations in opinions will be influenced by age and experience and seeing as Esato has member whose ages vary from early teens to say @masseur there's quite a spectrum for everyone to accept/tolerate. Politics is an excellent example, when I was a kid it did not touch my life and I did not give a flying fcuk (except during the miners strike) now I have to watch the Budget (for fcuks sake) worry re Corporation Tax ,do Tax returns, P11Ds etc etc ALL boring shit but influenced by the politicians currently in government.
In summary live and let live and remember there's a lot more important things in life to get all excited about other than someone’s differing opinion on an internet forum.
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