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What does everyone have against nokia |
solidsingh
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On 2005-02-23 01:09:34, sapporobaby wrote:
I do not think they will ever lead in terms of market share. The markets are too fragmented and saturated. Also, the turn around time for R&D is not as long as it used to be. Samsung, Moto-crap-ola, and others will quickly adapt and adopt. SE will however gain a larger percentage of market share. Nokia knows that its days as the seller of re-packaged phones are over.
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i have to disagree with the way you address motorola because i do think they are doing well at the moment |
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hadiq
Joined: Feb 14, 2005
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Personally I think the toop of the phone industry has got to be Samsung and S.E....for gsm anyways... |
sapporobaby
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I did not say that they, Motorola, was not doing well. Their phones have the worse user interface and user experience of all the manufactures. Phones that get little press are made by Siemens. If I was not an SE user, I would gladly have a Siemens. Their interfaces are similar to SE and quite innovative.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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Jake Blues
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are Ericsson Mobile Platforms still writing the firmware for Siemens Mobile?
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sapporobaby
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Good question. Not sure, but it is a great source of revenue and the OS of SE is very intuitive. My wife is a Finn, and she will even admit that SE is easier to use than her Nokia 6610 (what is with the menu system? Are they serious with this). I sort of see SE in the same way as I see Macintosh. Everyone knows that they are different and in many ways better, but it is so hard to take that first plunge. I made the jump to SE about 5 years ago and will not go back to Nokia for any reason. Siemens before that. By the way, I have a Mac and an iPod or two.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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hadiq
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From: Edmonton, Canada
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Yeh u could look at it that way...Many ppl chose to stay to the traditional nokia type of phones...8390...or mottorolla phones....v series |
dancingfate
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I dont really against Nokia. In fact I used to have some Nokias before SE T610 came out. My last Nokia was 6610 after I lost my 6510. The best Nokia I have IMO the 6510 (at that moment).
T610 is my first SE phone and I still have it till now (not even cross my mind to sell or trade this phone).
Since T610, I only use and prefer SE and will say NO to Nokia for some reasons such as:
1. Series 60 Nokias are bulky (3650, 3660, 6600, etc.)
2. Series 40 Nokias are suck and have very bad and tiny screen (6610, 6220, 6230, etc.)
3. Smartphone Nokias are very bulky (9210, 9500)
4. Most of Nokia's design are very bad and I dont like it anymore.
5. SE is better than Nokia so why should I choose Nokia?
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solidsingh
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errrm the new clamshells maybe?
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sapporobaby
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Salaams Aziz.
@Solidsingh,
I think Aziz is saying that he has made his choice for SE and will not go for Nokia. I have not been keeping up with Nokia, but do they have any clam-shell style phones?
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dancingfate
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Salaam for you: sapporobaby...
I agree with hadiq, it probably Samsung and SE for GSM and it is not Nokia's time anymore. You may refer to GSM Awards nominees and results which there was no Nokia at all on the list.
New clamshell of Nokia? Oh no! Dont ever think to buy any clamshell from Nokia. The king of clamshell is Samsung... (but I dont like clamshell...)
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hadiq
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OHHHH...what a coincedence....Salaam to both of you guys! im muslim too
ohh and ur definetly right....Samsung is and for the foreseable future will be the king of clamshell...although my v800 is rite up there!!
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sapporobaby
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Salaams to you as well Hadiq. I should have known from your name. Please forgive me. I sent you and Aziz a PM.
I have the s700, k700, and z1010. I love the twisting design of the s700, but z1010 is cool for the 3G stuff, but the k700 sort of still has a piece of my heart. All phones do different things reasonably well.
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Gigs
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They do have a new one out, whose main function I can gather is to glow like a christmas tree. From what I've seen it looks faily plain and cheap :/ (Though maybe a perfectly godo phone, haven't used it so can't judge there)
I dont hate Nokia per se, I just don't like them either. From owning one to all my friends who complain about theres, it makes me feel better to own an SE.
Nokia's remind me of the early days of Apple, release a new model with little upgrade features in it, slap it in a new case and make people buy it.. Only to upgrade it 4 weeks later.
Personally I find their phoens very tacky looking.
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ssjowowo
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i think they have 3-4 clamshells (nokia). the 6260 6170 7270 and their first which i don't recall(the one with that came with cloth and was supposed to be "cool" and "fashionable"!!-common!) seriously they are feature-less and the only thing they are trying to promote is that they are "fashionable" and cool. obviously nokia lost their minds trying to promote such phones as fashion. and more generally every phone nokia releases seems to be an upgrade of a previous model or a lame new design. i never had nokias and never wished for one. i remember my first mobile was an R320 and everyone was fooling around with me since they all had 3210 and 3310, but even R320 proved a good and reliable phone unlike those bricks that needed a new screen fitted every month or so |
namal
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Bad polyphony, bad screen, mono sound even in high end models, lack of memory, can go on like this forever.
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