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Residentevil
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Posted: 2004-12-05 22:33
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Keep the mods in charge. Otherwise it would not get anywhere. Too many cooks..... (see quote of Churchill)
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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-05 22:39
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@Residentevil

Churchill said many things.
"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC
kimcheeboi
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Posted: 2004-12-06 00:40
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what the point of this thread?

what's the point of voting on everything? Is esato some kind of country now and we have to preserve our rights?

The mods have been doing a great job and seeing as we don't have any major complaints about the mods i think we're doing just fine.

and as for that churchill quote i think its's "too many cooks spoil the soup." [addsig]
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Posted: 2004-12-06 00:58
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Being relatively new.. Am wary of replying to this.. But anyway here goes.. Sounds a bad idea to me .. From what ive seen in the time ive been reading forums here.. Is that the mods and admins are doing a good job.. No need for a change in that direction...

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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-06 03:11
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On 2004-12-06 00:40:00, kimcheeboi wrote:
what the point of this thread?

what's the point of voting on everything? Is esato some kind of country now and we have to preserve our rights?



I don't believe anyone in support of this idea has suggested we vote on 'everything'.

Rights? Where did that come from?

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The mods have been doing a great job ...
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I wasn't aware that I, or anyone else in support of this idea, had stated anything to the contrary.
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kimcheeboi
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Posted: 2004-12-06 03:45
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i believe that you've misused my quote

i meant that because the mods have been doing a great job (which none of us dispute) we shouldn't have to vote--the mods are perfectly capable of making the decision. If we have a complaint or question I'm sure a polite PM will either make them reconsider or they can explain why they did what they did

edit: And don't you think that voting on certain issues will make matters more chaotic? I mean, its hard enough for the mods having to read through every thread and make sure i'm (i mean WE) are behaving and having endless discussions on what threads should be locked, what members should be warned, etc etc wont make anything better. It's a much better alternative to go and privately talk to a mod if you have issues with a discussion they have made or if you feel something is borderline.
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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-06 03:53
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@kim

I think you have missed the point of the suggestion. Not that any of this matters a great deal as this is very unlikely to be approved anyway, but one can still let one's voice be heard.
"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC
Jake Blues
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Posted: 2004-12-06 09:00
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but if the mods are going to have the final say then whats going to change?
at the moment they discuss between them and make descisions. why involve us and create more pointless work for everyone? this "borderline case" doesnt exist, if the thread is a serious case, delete it. if its gone off course send it to garbage. garbage is still part of esato even if some members tend to look down on it a bit. there is nothing wrong with a thread going to garbage like has been suggested earlier.
another point is for the first couple of cases alot of people will vote because its a new thing but after that only the same few will vote. these will be seen as wannabe mods and may create tension/divisions that we dont need.
the system works. if it aint broke dont fix it.
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Posted: 2004-12-06 09:10
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Please read the THE RULES OF ESATO and you will see there is a line "No personal offending". I take this as well as, "No public offending"!

I believe the moderators should be doing that.
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Posted: 2004-12-07 01:42
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Some of you have completely taken my suggestions out of context!...I suppose theres absolutely no point in me repeating myself. [addsig]
scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-07 01:58
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The usual mass 'hysteria' over any new suggestion, once again rears its head. I don't think this suggestion was intended as a challenge to the current system, more as a measure to add something positive to it.
"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC
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Posted: 2004-12-07 02:11
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On 2004-12-07 01:58:23, scotsboyuk wrote:
The usual mass 'hysteria' over any new suggestion, once again rears its head. I don't think this suggestion was intended as a challenge to the current system, more as a measure to add something positive to it.




Thankyou Scots mate...Words of wisdom in a sea of hysteria! [addsig]
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Posted: 2004-12-07 11:04
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I don't think it's a great idea. @scotty, I can't see what it would add to be honest. It seems to me that laffen has actually done an exceptionally good job in choosing moderators who act responsibly, impartially and sensibly - indeed considerably more so than the rest of the membership in most cases.

I think allowing a voting system for contentious issues actually has more chance of allowing the lunatics to take over the asylum than achieving anything positive. There are a handful of people who I would be personally be happy to see making decisions as to what is valid, and if they have such an interest they should become moderators but for the most part I think the status quo works just fine and any amendments giving more "power to the people" would be a seriously bad move. This is mainly a reflection on the fact that I think that you would find, after a while, that you would be left with no decent mods and only those with an axe to grind would actually bother voting.

Just my two cents, which thankfully carries no weight....at the moment anyway
lor
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Posted: 2004-12-07 11:17
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I believe in a dictatorship. So down with democracy and the boss will decide everything for us...

go laffen (or whoever runs this site)
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Posted: 2004-12-07 14:22
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I certainly CONCUR with the MAJORITY's replies on this ISSUE - unanimously ! If VOTING will be DONE everytime there will be a fragile ISSUE, then I guess there will be NO need for Mods anymore Though however, there are CERTAIN ISSUES that the VOTES of the individual members here would be CERTAINLY be - NEEDED! Like . . .

1. Whether a CERTAIN member be BANNED for LIFE !
2. Whether a certain MEMBER be 'catapulted' to a Moderator Status.
3. Whether a certain MEMBER be allowed to change his USERNAME . . .
4. Whether MODS + Laffen be allowed to GO on a VACATION !

[ This Message was edited by: JN on 2004-12-07 13:31 ]
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