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__knk__
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well thats interesting....i was expecting some intel supporters to step in when I said what i did about the AMD cpus. anyway i use amd(athlon 3500+) mainly because of the significant price difference to the pentiums i was looking at....does the job for me neway:)
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@max wedge: even running dos on the phone would be a great step imo...play all my old school street rod:)
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shyam335
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I meant arm was derived and hold more similarities to RISC,than CISC..
How is RISC more advanced than CISC?
The manufacturing process determines the clock of a uP to a great extent besides architecture of course (Thats why we didnt see a 4Ghz netburst)..
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On 2007-02-07 10:23:32, shyam335 wrote:
I meant arm was derived and hold more similarities to RISC,than CISC..
How is RISC more advanced than CISC?
The manufacturing process determines the clock of a uP to a great extent besides architecture of course (Thats why we didnt see a 4Ghz netburst)..
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Internal architecture can't improve the clock speed (architecture means the design of the chip's logic circuits, not the materials or processes used to build the chip), but it can improve how many instructions are performed for each clock cycle, which in turn increases the processing speed (but not the clock speed)
The manufacturing process ultimately means faster chips. But they are reaching the limit of the manufacturing process, which is why they are now using dual (and quad and higher) core cpu's - to add more processing power for a given clock speed (almost double).
RISC processors use less transistors to achieve the same results as CISC, so the hardware overhead is lower for equivalently powerful CISC processors.
btw, both Pentium and AMD chips are CISC. PowerPC on the other hand is RISC (but apple don't use it anymore), and many phones are RISC (ARM). Eventually, Intel and AMD may bring risc architecture to desktops also, though for now they seem to be happy to keep adding more x86 cores to the CPU.
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shyam335
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Then how could cedar mills clock higher than comparable processors so comfortably..
I dont think this RISC and CISC names hold too much these days,as both camps using these have borrowed and implemented ideas in their uP from each other.
I cant see intel and amd bringing a pure RISC uP to desktop anytime soon..
and both of em are pouring in cash to x86 and x86-64.
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brownie1989
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just to take the piss.what processor has my oldest fone the t610 got.
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On 2007-02-08 03:24:36, shyam335 wrote:
Then how could cedar mills clock higher than comparable processors so comfortably..
I dont think this RISC and CISC names hold too much these days,as both camps using these have borrowed and implemented ideas in their uP from each other.
I cant see intel and amd bringing a pure RISC uP to desktop anytime soon..
and both of em are pouring in cash to x86 and x86-64.
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oh they'll keep pushing the envolope, so better manufactured chips can run at higher speeds. But it's the internal architecture that determines how fast a chip can calculate things for a given inside bus speed. For example a single core cedar mill P4 may clock at 4.2GHz, but a dual core chip running at 3GHz will best it. Or as they are now doing, Double Core (two cedarmills sandwiched into one form factor)
But you are right to an extent, and risc is probably only really useful in small devices where low power and low heat are a requirement.
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