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Wazuki
Joined: Aug 08, 2004
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Irrasshai mase! Nan kuni jin deska?
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fw190
Joined: Jun 10, 2003
Posts: 33
From: Philippines
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Konnichi ha!
Watashi ha Firipin jin desu.
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niji
Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Posts: 61
From: tokyo
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lynn and others:
as i have posted in other threads, the v802 launch in japan is not for several more weeks.
vodafone shops have no actual info on this model yet, and when i called around i finally found a very nice lady who did know about it, but she told me that the japan launch is still several (" at least") weeks away yet.
from experience, the keitai sites in japan are able to obtain launch timings at least 2 weeks in advance, and the keitai sites have no updated info on the japan launch at this time, other than some sites predicting "latter half" of November.
Also, vodafon japan typically will make sure that a launch co-incides with that month"s monthly brochure of new fones and services, and the november brochure came out on oct 30 and no mention of the v802.
i predict that we will see a december launch on the dec 10th or 11th, with actual mass distribution to most smaller shops taking until week of dec 20th.
dont forget that JATE approval of this fone was very very late, only given in early october, so there was undoubtedly some sort of network or software glitch that delayed approval of it at JATE level. (a bit of a concern, that...)
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niji
Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Posts: 61
From: tokyo
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two bits of news obtained today:
1. today voafone japan confirmed that the v802 that vodafone will sell in japan will not be able to work with any other network's usim cards.
2. japan launch date is still not announced. their flag ship store in shibuya thinks that early december is most likely, however, but no confirmation of this.
regarding vodafone japan's wcdma fones not accepting any other company's usim cards, this continues the status quo. no current vodafone japan wcdma fone can accept another network's usim card.
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lynn
Joined: Mar 31, 2004
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thanks for the update niji!! |
*Jojo*
Joined: Oct 15, 2003
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@blackspot - I did not know that you can speak - the Jap lingo mate  |
blackspot
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
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From: Philippines
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 just a bit.
resistance is futile. |
*Jojo*
Joined: Oct 15, 2003
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@blackspot - Are you a lady dude? Maybe you become a Japayuki back there  (just kidding here) . . . during my college days, we used to have that Japanese Language class, but I did not learn a thing - only a few like: konnichiwa, bakero, simasen, hai, arigato etc., I become more adept with the Spanish one  ! |
blackspot
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
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From: Philippines
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If I was a lady I'd probably look like Jill Mills 
BTW, I believe there's no such word as "bakero". It's just what people think it is because that's how it almost sounds like. I believe the proper word is "baka yarou" which means "crazy guy", FYI. 
resistance is futile. |
*Jojo*
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@blackspot - Good thing you're not a lady mate  ! Thanks for the correction there - bakero, as that's how I hear them pronounce it specially with FPJ's 70's flicks ! |
blackspot
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
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From: Philippines
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@niji, nihon ni v802 wa ikura desu ka?
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niji
Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Posts: 61
From: tokyo
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blackspot: price as of the v802se as of nov 19 is still unannounced.
however, i estimate that the japan price for this fon, for a new user switching from a competitor brand to vodafone japan, will be able to buy it for between 25,000 and 28,000 jpy.
a current user of vodafone japan wishing to upgade to this handset from an older model will be charged a surcharge of between 25% and 100% of the new user cost, based on a sliding scale of how recently he bought his current fone. more being paid by people who have their current fon for less than 1 year; less of a surcharge paid by people having their current fon for between 1 and 2 years.
by the way, fon costs for the hardware in japan are subsidized by the network, so you can not compare the cost of the fon in japan versus the cost of the fon elsewhere, usually. however, in the 802se case, since this is the first global launch of the handset also being able to access the wcdma band in japan, it will be interesting to do a later comparison of actual costs for the fon. old data not relevant to this new model.
additionally: there are problems of some kind, either supply chain, or (i hope not) software/firmware related: the launch date as of today is still unannounced in japan. there had been rumors of firmware problems on this handset. unless they are adding features that the advanced demanding mobile fon market of japan requires to market successfully that might not be available in the non-japan version. i think that scenario not very likely, and that there are just firmware problems that are delaying it.
one more thing: i attach a link to a (japanese language) site that has a pre-release version of a catalog of the japanese model. worthwhile to see the fotos if you cant read the japanse. but pls do see the spec page. since the "review" by another forum poster indicates different specs than what is in this japanese catalog it may be interesting to note.
http://vdfx.net/albumv12/webalbum.cgi
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niji
Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Posts: 61
From: tokyo
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sony ericsson and sharp have just announced that they will jointly develop mobile software for use in japan's docomo fones (wcdma).
platform will use symbian os.
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niji
Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Posts: 61
From: tokyo
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here is a link to the japanese catalog for the v802se.
it says that white birch will be started to sell in december; and pure copper will be sold starting in january.
also, i was not aware of it, but the graphcs engine is 3d.
http://www.route-one.co.jp/r1[....]ue/imglist.php?trg_model=802SE
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niji
Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Posts: 61
From: tokyo
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interesting analysis of profitability of handset makers in the japanese market, and its implications for foreign markets
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_50/b3912070.htm
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Posted: 2004-11-09 08:43
