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melita
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Joined: Nov 03, 2004
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From: Southampton, UK
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Posted: 2004-11-03 02:23
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This isn't really about the time though.

The point is that there is absolutely nothing on the phone to indicate that it is switched on. Even the 10-year old flashing LED would be appreciated now!

I just got my phone this morning and have spent all day trying to work out why the screen just goes blank!
mv agusta
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Joined: Jun 21, 2004
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Posted: 2004-11-03 04:37
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Why dont we tell se to put clock powersave mode as an add option, and everybody stay calm and what u guys need. Can somebody mail se to clear this?

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sapporobaby
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Posted: 2004-11-07 08:42
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How about reaching over and touching it. I think that touching almost any button will make the light come on dimmed. I almost wrote something but decided against it. There more important things in the world than the fact that there is no clock on the phone.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*

N82(YES), iPhone 3G, Shure es530, Nikon D300, more stuff. No more SE stuff, why am I still here?
dephanix
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Joined: Apr 14, 2004
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Posted: 2004-11-07 11:01
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Well i emailed SE anyway and the lady replies with "We do not know why the S700i doesn't have a clock screensaver" - They dont know their own phones
mv agusta
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Posted: 2004-11-07 11:58
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Well, u can tell the lady that to put someone instead of her to answer the question.

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sapporobaby
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Posted: 2004-11-07 12:01
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Is this clock issue really a show stopper? Would it prevent you from buying a phone? If not, please get over it. Sound like children on the school yard.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*

N82(YES), iPhone 3G, Shure es530, Nikon D300, more stuff. No more SE stuff, why am I still here?
planB
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Posted: 2005-02-04 08:05
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the p800 also had the same problem.
then they fixed it on the p900.
now se actually got it wrong again?!?

ijust cracked the display on my p900, so i'm looking for a new phone to get on my insurance. the s700 looks like a sweet phone, but i'm getting second thoughts... if there really is no way of seeing if you've gotten messages or at least the OPTION of a clock, that is sooo last century i don't even know where to start...

i don't care what all you "i'd rather save all the power i could" people say... i can charge every night if needed be. there should be the OPTION.

also the opinion of those who think SE are gods and spends all their savings on a stupid phone so they don't wan't to admit the phone has flaws, doesn't count


i think it seems like esato, once a great resource for se owners, has degraded into mostly a SE appraisal forum... there are less and less smart posts here every time i come by.
scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2005-02-04 08:12
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@planB That seems like a rather silly reason not to buy a particular handset. If it bothers you so much, buy a watch. Unfortunately I would tend to agree with with regards to the increase in tosh.

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planB
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Posted: 2005-02-04 08:30
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of course, it wouldn't be the only reason for not buying the s700, but i've read a couple of reviews saying it isn't really all that good as well. and you know, these bad impressions add up...

i'll probably go for it anyway though. it just means i'll have to fix my wrist watch and get used to not having the sms reminder of the p900 to tell me i've got new messages... would be nice to try something other that a uiq phone again. hope i won't miss the apps too much
janahan
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Posted: 2005-02-04 12:13
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Intresting views...

Ok I am a technical person, especially being a Computer Consultant and a programmer.

Yet I found the clock on the old phones extremely annoying.. The lighting was not "bright" enough to see the time, and phsycologically, i felt that I was spending too much time trying to read it for it to be comfortable. Turning on a "light" just to read it, was to me one step too far

Secondly, another point, if you are used to whipping out the phone everytime you want to read the time, you end up:
- Looking like a poser
- attracting the attention of "would be muggers" (the S700i is a pretty desirable phone).

I have always prefered a proper watch on my wrist. My Breitling Super Avenger, is easy to read, practical, requires no batteries, stylish, and can be a superb weapon against any would be muggers.

I dont see any phone replacing it.
supra2800
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Posted: 2005-02-04 15:16
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Here's my humble view on this matter...

On T610 - the clock in screensaver mode was pretty useless, very hard to see it - you had to turn on the light.

T630 - much better. (cause of the screen)

Then came K700 - the clock looks great on it, easy to read. And (even better!!), it shows an envelope when you have unread messages, and this arrow when unanswered calls etc - that I like !! But, eventually, I decided to go into powersave. I figured, why would I want my phones display to be on, when its in my pocket (and not viewable) all the time, anyways?

I dont have a wrist watch anymore, haven't had it since.. uhm.. I think Nokia 8210 came out. Have always used my phone. But nowadays, you can actually get the time just by looking over your shoulder. In the train, the bus, in malls, bus stops etc. There's a clock everywhere. And if not, it takes only few secs to pull out that wonderful S700 and look at the time - and also, check for unread messages. (in case a message came in and you didnt hear it or feel it (vibrator)).

So it wasnt a big deal when I found out that S700 had no clock in screensaver...

BUT - what is a big deal, and which bothers me alot ... Why, oh why, have they put in a LED only to tell me "dude, you're low on power" and "weee im charging!!" , when that LED could have MANY more cool options, like:
* Blink when you have unread messages
* Blink when you have unanswered calls
* Blink like the old ///'s did (to indicate power on)

Of course, all the above 3 features SHOULD be made optional (can't be that hard... even Samsung has it on their SGH-X450), so that the whiners who cant sleep at night because of a blinking LED, can turn it off - and the rest of us, can turn it on.

I pray for this feature every night... Pleeeeaase ... release a new firmware that has it! (but I really doubt it will happen )

[ This Message was edited by: supra2800 on 2005-02-04 14:17 ]
Valentiner
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Posted: 2005-03-13 02:50
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Does the new R3k firmware solve the clock issue? ...
mailliw_17
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Posted: 2005-03-13 05:54
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nope it didnt solve the clock issue...
Valentiner
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Posted: 2005-03-13 10:18
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I just wanted to add my point above ... all those who say "have a wrist watch" are obviously bullshiting. Probably all of them never laid their hands on a S700, and they are just envious on those who have it.

Having an all-in-one device is exactly the purpose of this wonderfull phone. So no more a flash media player, a radio, a camera and a phone all the time with you, just the s700. Probably you guys say that you also need a camera cuz s700 isn't like a real camera, and an iPOD because the sound quality is not exactly like an iPODs sound quality. And another phone just in case we don't have RF ... lol ... you're more than penibile.

Not having a clock displayed in standby (I mean not even having the option for it - is it THAT hard to do?! I think not!) is absolutely against the purposes of this phone and it is a huge drawback!

How can one see missed calls or messages? ...
ssjowowo
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Posted: 2005-03-13 12:41
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the clock function is not that important. if i want to see the time i just press a button and voila. even if the time is displayed on the phone(eg k700 which i owned before the s700) you still had to press a button to illuminate the screen. so don't say that se ignored this function. it's just has to do with the actual screen of the s700, consuming too much energy. someone mentioned that the p910's screen is much larger than s700 and still can display the time. let me tell you this..it's not larger! p910 has a resolution of 208x320 whereas s700 has a res of 240x320. so in technical terms it's a much larger screen and if you compare the two screens, the s700 one is by far superior. so it's only natural that se engineers overlooked the time function in order to save some battery life. and mayby it worked, because i can use the s700 for 2-3 days without charging, whereas with the k700 i had to charge it every 1-2 days
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