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scotsboyuk
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I think we shall see a great deal more technological convergance as mobile phones in general, not just smartphones, take on more and more functionality. If one compares a current mobile phone with one from five years ago one can instantly see the massive leaps in technology and functionality that have occurred over the last five years. I think there is a reasonable case to be made that mobile phones aren't really phones anymore, they have evolved into much more than that, the only thing, in my view, keeping the label of 'phone' attached to them, is the form factor.
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blackspot
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I agree, like several years ago people were carrying beepers and phones separately. Some have separate portable players and Radios. Now nobody's complaining that they're all in one single device.
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I like everything in a single device. The P900 hits the sweet spot of both worlds for me. 
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scotsboyuk
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I'm a fan of integrated devices too, although I am aware that many people do like to use dedicated devices. I have no need for a dedicated digital camera in every time I leave the house, nor do I travel enough every day to warrant the use of a dedicated music player, nor do I require a dedicated handheld gaming device; I am quite satisfied with the capabilities of my P900
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YEOPK
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The only down side of integrated devices is that if the phone is 'out', u will end up without anything to use for at least a few days. |
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On 2004-09-21 09:35:36, YEOPK wrote:
The only down side of integrated devices is that if the phone is 'out', u will end up without anything to use for at least a few days.
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I wasn't aware a mobile phone could be gay! 
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lazeeboy
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On 2004-09-21 09:35:36, YEOPK wrote:
The only down side of integrated devices is that if the phone is 'out', u will end up without anything to use for at least a few days.
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very true. that's why i also prefer separates(se t68i & palm m515).
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Asterix
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Camera integrated with phone is ok, but Istill prefer to have my PDA separated from phone, so my T610/M515 duo makes a great job, I'm also thinking on upgrading both devices at the end of the year, so maybe a K700i along a BT palm, any suggestions?
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YEOPK
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Asterix,
Try looking at ACER or Toshiba. Their latest models seems to be very good indeed. |
mib1800
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many here think that purpose of smartphone is to be like PDA and eventually take over the functions of PDA.
i think otherwise. the greater potential for smartphone is in the entertainment, gaming and leisure aspect. here we are looking at smartphones for the masses, something that is new and untapped.
u need affordable and practical (i.e. size wise) phones. it does not need to have very advance "business" functions or even a touch screen.
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Oco
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Interesting thread. In my view (as a P800 user) "classics" PDA are big monsters. Ok, they have great apps now but remember when pocketPC was introduced, maybe Symbian will reach pocketPC soon as it reached Palm OS in app terms.
Anyway, Im a mobile user of "basic" information as text, database, pictures, contacts, email, internet, phone, "file store", etc. I would love a little GIS apps and better PDF compatibility but at this moment all is fine for me.
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scotsboyuk
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@mib1800
I can see where you are coming from, but I think that there is scope for more than one smartphone market; smartphones for the masses with more emphasis placed upon entertainment, gaming, music, etc and smartphones for high-end/business users who require advanced features with the possibility of such devices replacing PDAs.
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mib1800
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@scotsboyuk:
that what i'm getting at. 2 categories of smartphones. one for the enterprise/business-centric segment (P900/XDA) and one for the general masses (series 60).
i believe the current growth is driven by the latter. i do agree that a significant number in the general category may not fully utilise the smartphone capability. nonetheless, these buyers are fueling a trend which will continue.
i tend to agree with many analysts who believe in this divergence (i.e. business/general). imo, most likely Microsoft would hv upperhand in the business/enterprise segments. symbian is still nowhere near the integrated capability of PPC.
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scotsboyuk
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@mib1800
The problem I have with the idea of 'smartphones for the masses' is that most people inherently dislike anything too complex. I think we shall see mobiles expand their features, but actual user customisation of a mobile will be as limited as it is today in terms of adding new software. Many customers might very well appreciate it if their mobile could be used as a remote control for their television or if it would allow them to view Word documents, but what they will not appreciate is having to buy or download (or both) the software to do these things and then install it. Most customers appreciate simplicity above all else.
Mobiles will continue to grow smarter, but I think we are looking at mobiles with pre-defined features, at least in the short term.
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methylated_spirit
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Hmmm yeah, if they continue ploughing money into developing new and fantastical features, they could be left with egg on their faces when it doesnt sell, as people simply want a basic mobile phone. Not to say r&d isnt important
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