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BobaFett
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@sboy sorry, on wap is garbage thread not to find, had to search for it. I think i answered your question. I dont believe in any of the systems u wrote about. Those are just names for the same reason, the political and industrial interests are over our interests.
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*Jojo*
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Hmmm . . . looks like all you guys did your homework in school  'Knows the politics of the past  I just hope that US President George W. Bush don't get in the picture/discussion  Right Mr. News Editor - @axxxr |
BobaFett
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@axxxr is here always more then welcome, as ebody else of course, incl u @jojo!
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scotsboyuk
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@boba
Actually you haven't answered my question; you have merely stated (more than once) that you are unhappy with the present systems of government. As I have asked before, which form of government would you like to see?
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Jim
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I guess that he means something different, not one of what you said |
axxxr
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Did i hear someone mention g.bush?... 
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scotsboyuk
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@Jim
That is precisely what I am asking boba, which form of government he would prefer to those he has said he doesn't agree with.
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Lynx69
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On 2004-07-17 20:13:36, axxxr wrote:
Did i hear someone mention g.bush?...
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I guess your now going to link it to your thread
Ill do it for you
George W. Bush;s Resume (C.V)
And btw its Bush's you missed by one key
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switchbitch
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lets all hug and be friends, theres a bigger battle for us on the horizon.
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axxxr
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One battle at a time.....
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scotsboyuk
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@boba
I'll just keep this topic fresh I think; which form of government would you like to see in place of those, which you have said you do not agree with?
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BobaFett
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@scotsboyuk i dont take care of gov. I was, am and will be a right forever, but the meaning of it has changed now a days.
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scotsboyuk
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@bobafett
Once again you seem to have managed to avoid giving a direct answer, although I'm not quite sure why. It is a simple enough question; which form of government would you prefer to see in place of those, which you have previously stated, you don't agree with?
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BobaFett
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@scotsboyuk i didnt avoid it. I wrote my opinion of it. Still interested in politic, but i dont take care of govs itself, but like to discuss of them. In my country we had left party 40 years long, after the change right, then again left etc all of them did the same = nothing special for the country just pissed off the nation. 60 years ago we lived better then now, in 1900 hungary had a respected position in europe. In those times we had right gov which took care of the nation. Miss those times.
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Patrick-in-CA
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Hi! Can I join in? This is actually the kind of talk I like!
Here is what I think (like you want to know, right?):
The best form of government: Democratically elected Republic
Is the United States the ideal? I have my doubts. However I'm unable to point to a better structure of government in any other country either now or in history.
Problems with a "more" democratic Democracy: Tyranny of the majority.
As mentioned before in this thread - checks and balances are necessary. The consent of the governed being where a government gains its just authority to govern is a philosophy I believe in. But that doesn't mean that the "governed" are able to make wise choices even in a majority of specific situations. (just take a look at any reliable opinion pole and see how frequently the majority changes its mind) The rights of the individual must be protected against the ever fluctuating will of the majority - else no individual has any rights.
I'm curious as to how the Monarchy in GB has a real say in governance (IE: has a real check on the balance of power). If the Monarch dissolved Parliament ... or refused to sign legislation (I didn't even know they could do this - I learn new stuff all the time) ... what would be the reaction of the people? Would there be upheaval? Would there be riots?
In the US if Congress acts - it goes. If the Executive branch acts - it goes. If the Supreme Court acts - it stands. Sure ... there are protests. Yes, there is disharmony. But I think the vast majority (and I mean vast majority) of US Citizens would be appalled if any action by any branch of US government is met with violence. Look back at the Civil Rights struggle of the '60 and Rodney King riots in LA. That sort of lawlessness was repugnant to just about every US Citizen - even if they agreed with the opinion of the rioters. Is this kind of distain for violent reaction the same in European nations? Or am I off my rocker just to think that this kind of distain for violence exists in the US?
The rule of law is paramount.
And as far as the opinion that the Executive Branch (US President) has too much power? I argue that the Legislative Branch (The Federal courts and the US Supreme Court) have, by far, the most power. And I'm not sure that it is a bad thing.
Help me learn people - disagree with me and tell me why.
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