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peregrinum
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Posted: 2004-03-08 20:51
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As far as anybody knows, nobody makes the 2x128 card in a Duo version - only the full size Memory Stick.
purge
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Posted: 2004-03-23 17:47
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Are you telling us that there will never be a MS Duo more than 128Mb?
How do you know what technology is round the corner?
Intel were pushed to cope with 90 Mhz a few years ago. They are now upto in excess of 3Ghz.

There will be a MS Duo of more than 128Mb but the technology is not there yet.



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On 2004-03-08 14:57:48, peregrinum wrote:
There is no such thing as an original Memory Stick larger than 128MB. Full stop. Period. The end. Deal with it. Get over it. Accept it. Now and forever. This is an absolute, unavoidable limitation of the Memory Stick design. It is not, has never been and will never be possible to make a Memory Stick device with more than 128MB of address space. Got it?

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meatmcguffin
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Posted: 2004-03-23 18:13
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will a stick of gum work? i mean thats about the same size. Its light blue as well. and i scribbled "magic-gort" on the side. In felt tip pen! Will this work!?!?!?
Scally_cadet
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Posted: 2004-03-23 18:59
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Please lock this thread and delete the madness! Cant we place a note when you login to here that your told the Px00's/Z1010 can only take 128mb? PLEASE NOTE THE SAME IS TRUE OF THE Z1010!

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peregrinum
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Posted: 2004-03-23 20:40
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Never. Never. Never ever. A million times never.

There is not, there cannot be, there will never be, at any time from now until the heat death of the universe, a Memory Stick (or Duo) larger than 128MB. It is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light and it is impossible to make a Memory Stick bigger than 128MB.

The obvious logical corollary is: a device that accepts only Memory Stick (and not Memory Stick Pro) will never, never, never ever, a million times never, from now until the heat death of the universe, be able to access a memory card larger than 128MB.

This is what Memory Stick Pro is for.

You're welcome to quote me in the FAQ.

Oh, and Santa Claus isn't real.
paulince
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Posted: 2004-03-23 20:53
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and never will people stop asking such questions.
Morba
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Posted: 2004-03-24 11:47
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peregrinum, as much as what you say is correct for now you cannot say what will come later. Ok you can assume it wont happen, but would you bet your mortgage on it?

I wouldnt thats for sure.
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Posted: 2004-03-24 12:55
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And even when there will be a 256mb MS DUO, it will STILL NOT BE COMPATIBLE with a P8/900, there he support up to 128mb MAXIMUM....!!!!! pfffffffffffffffffffff
STUPID THREAD AGAIN !!!!
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Posted: 2004-03-24 15:52
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actually in theory, it "IS" possible to travel faster than the speed of light. We just dont have the technology to do so, nor a way of measuring. But by the numbers (in theory) it is possible. Something about white light turning blue as well was mentioned, i dont remember why though.
peregrinum
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Posted: 2004-03-24 16:42
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Sure I can, Morba. Watch me.

There will never be a Memory Stick larger than 128MB. There cannot be a Memory Stick larger than 128MB. This is a fundamental limitation of the Memory Stick interface. It is simply impossible.

See? That was easy.

It's strangely fascinating, how this issue keeps attracting people with a bizarre inability to comprehend simple statements of fact. And kind of fun.
mmsman
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Posted: 2004-03-24 16:51
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well i mean why would sony even have a pro version if the normal one allows bigger memory?
the memory stick (or duo) technology just isn't build for 128+ memory.....

so no just back up him, ther's never ever going to be a ms duo larger than 128 mb,
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Posted: 2004-03-24 16:54
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Ok totaly understand the memory stick is maxed at 128 and thats not gonna change...

And the Pro's dont work at the moment...

But would it be possible for our P900 to some how read the pro sticks ?

would they fit ?

and could they some how be read ?

I know uve said they cant be read, but no ones explained why...

Sorry if im being a total dumb ass and sorry if uve already explained this




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meatmcguffin
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Posted: 2004-03-24 18:18
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@goldfinger

It must be a hardware thing. It can't be a software thing as sony ericsson would have released a patch to sell a billion trillion pro sticks and to make sony rich(er).

The difference between a ms and an ms pro is the same as the difference between a compact flash and a mutimedia card. they may sound the same but its like putting a cd in a floppy drive. not gonna work.
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Posted: 2004-03-24 19:26
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On 2004-03-24 18:18:07, meatmcguffin wrote:
@goldfinger

It must be a hardware thing. It can't be a software thing as sony ericsson would have released a patch to sell a billion trillion pro sticks and to make sony rich(er).

The difference between a ms and an ms pro is the same as the difference between a compact flash and a mutimedia card. they may sound the same but its like putting a cd in a floppy drive. not gonna work.



@Meatmc-

I think that was a horrible analogy because your premise for using it is simply incorrect. The expansion past the 128 DUO technology is not barred because of hardware limitations. I've consulted with a couple engineers from SE that can atest to that. It's also not that easy to just simply convert it to the DUO PRO format either. But more importantly it is not entirely impossible.

To address your second point on why SE would have done this because of the lucrative potentials, analyze it this way. With the current distribution of 512mb + DUO PROs SE would not necessarily gain more money if they convert their Pxxx to the PRO format. One manner of reasoning would be because Pxxx customers would naturally simply abandon the DUO format and move on to the DUO PRO format. These DUO PRO sticks are cheap. I have personally purchased 22 128mb DUOs from the summer of 2003 until now. That's because I got them for really good prices. With that said, the 512mb DUO PROs in my opinion are also cheap. I can get 1 512mb DUO PRO for the price of only 3 128mb Duos and I'd still be getting more memory for my buck. Which means I would no longer have the need to buy a 16,32,64,or 128mb DUO. I'm guessing several other members would probably want a minimum of 256mb which would mean they would be buying from the DUO PRO class. Several devices right now are being built to utilize the DUO PRO format.

If you look at the devices that are converting to this format it is not any SE product. Sony is converting all it's former regular memory stick products to the PRO class, but SE is not. Remember SE and Sony are not technically the same company. So the business profits that Sony may benefit from if they can sell the DUO PRO sticks to SE customers does not necessarily mean SE will be reaking in the profits as well. Also keep in mind that only a division of Sony has merged with Ericsson. Moreover, SE has its own market share and generate its own revenue. All profits do not go into one big pot in which Sony and SE share harmoniously. Thus, all that being said what does SE really have to gain in this conversion? I personally think it all depends on the contract that these 2 companies have going between one another.
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Posted: 2004-03-24 20:28
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so... u... *burp* erm... gonna post some screenshots, disfigured by your quite frankly hideous logos, to proof your *fart* point?
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