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T610: what?!!! only 974 KB of free memory for the user... |
Del
Joined: Jan 11, 2003
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From: Kent, UK
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I think it will p**s over most of the phones out there for a while
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diggy
Joined: Mar 26, 2003
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I have a t68i, a p800, a 6100, and a second hand 7650. I can send pics to ALL these phones with my 3650. I dont have a 7250 so I cannot comment on that. The 610 is a smartphone wanna be. Why even have a cam if it takes shitty pics? I only use my cam on my 3650 to take pictures to send via email. And with a 3rd party program I use the pics look great on a pc. I dont know anyone who prints pictures from a phone so that point is moot. The 610 is a joke. Se could have least put 5 megs of memory in there. The way the phone is now its like mental mastrubation.
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djk
Joined: Oct 06, 2002
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I would like to say something here.
Many one say 2MB is more than enough.
Yes, 2MB is acceptable, if a 2KB photo uses 2KB in phone memory,
and the whole 2MB memory is available for users.
Yet, if a 2KB photo uses 10KB in phone memory,
and there are just around 1500KB (I don't know the exact number) available for users, I think we cannot save so much thing.
I have assumed what I can save in 1500KB:
10 games or Java applications = 700KB
(a full screen mophun game usually takes about 70KB)
2 themes = 100KB
1 own screensaver = 200KB
(originally 20KB, but u know the memory allocation problem..)
10 own photos for wallpaper and picture phonebook = 300KB
(Sony Ericsson says that a 128x128 photo uses around 32KB)
10 polyphonic ringing tone = 100KB
Memory left: 100KB
I afraid receiving two MMS messages will use up all memory,
or I just can take two photos by the built-in camera.
2MB is a marketing tactic, I don't care.
But I do care the problem of memory allocation!
Just take out your T68i and send a animated GIF into it,
and check the difference between memory size of the GIF and memory used in the phone. The situation will be even worse I suppose as the T610 uses screensaver with 128x160 65K color photo.
I prefer "no worrying when saving things to the phone" rather than "save memory just like saving money". |
binoblaine05
Joined: Mar 30, 2003
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good pm peeps..... |
Freak
Joined: Aug 31, 2002
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who know! nobody here here have tested a T610 with the final firmwire! so the memory allocation problem, is maby something they alredy solved. |
can1
Joined: Jun 06, 2002
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@ diggy
I'm sure the photos taken with your 3650 look great on your PC..... as thumbnails! Hardly dekstop background material which is what most people use pictures for (If you don't want to print them out).
Besides Nokias suck and the owners do to 
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simon69c
Joined: Feb 24, 2003
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For crying out loud! I really don't understand some people on here. You are obsessed with trying to have every last feature crammed into a phone and expect it to still be the size of a t68??
Unfortunately there is such a thing as limitations in the world in which we live and you simply *can't* have everything - something always has to give - it's called compromise - we come across it quite alot in the world of engineering. If you want a phone with all these mega features then it ends up being quite big since you can't get an indefinate amount of functionality into a finite size. The T610 is an advanced MMS/java enabled phone. It is not an mp3/video player - to try to include features like that (and a MS/SD slot) would make the phone grow in size - probably about the size of a P800. What's that? Oh the P800 already exists! Maybe that's why SE aren't putting all those features into the T610! (They have a bluetooth MP3 handsfree kit that can be coupled with the T610 for part of that need anyway).
The T610 is targetting a different market to the P800. I for example never got a P800 coz I already have a bluetooth PDA on which I can store video clips/songs etc. and listen to/watch them. I prefer to have a separate phone so that I can take that out when I don't need my PDA (which is most of my leisure time). I currently use a T68 and have been waiting for a phone to replace it. Since bluetooth is essential for me there have been no phones that really seemed worth upgrading to. The S55 kind of - but the 256 colour screen meant it would have been hardly worth it. It is a nice phone (I have a couple of friends with them) but didn't make sense for me as I already had a phone with most of its features. The T610 is the first phone that really makes upgrading seem worthwhile and I will definately be getting it. 2MB memory is plenty for me as I regularly backup my phone to my bluetoothed PC anyway and I would probably simply transfer files to my PDA if I really needed to.
At the end of the day the T610 is a very good phone - sure it has some compromises in it's design - ALL PHONES DO! So it won't be the perfect phone for everyone - not everyone has the same requirements for a phone! But for me it is the best for the foreseeable future for what I currently need a phone for. Perhaps next year I will be looking to go 3G and so I will be changing my requirements for my phone but for now the T610 more than meets them. I understand some people here won't be satisfied with the T610 because it doesn't meet their (possibly unrealistic?) expectations/requirements. If so I suggest you wait for another phone to come along that meets them more to your satisfaction. But technology is always moving on and so I doubt you will ever be truly satisfied as whatever phone you choose there will always be something better waiting round the corner.
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ppcrockar
Joined: Mar 04, 2002
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@ simon69c
I couldn't agree more. Very well said. |
shawnmccall9
Joined: Apr 21, 2002
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too bad P800 doesn't have GSM 850 |
robpow
Joined: Jan 20, 2002
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I've had a T68 since it was first released and was hoping that by now a replacement in the same size league would have a bit more features than just a camera and some software additions. After all Siemens phones have have MP3 players with SD/MMC slots for quite some time now.
The main reason for the P800 to be so large is the screen and the extra hardware required to run a full Symbian implementation. A memory slot doesn't add much bulk to a phone but would add a lot of possibilities in terms of expansion. If I wanted a small, solid single-purpose phone I would by a Nokia, they tend to produce plenty of simple phones with small useful features like built-in FM radio. From Ericsson we have come to expect a bit more though, in my office almost all IT staff have SE phones and those who are less interested in new technology have Nokia phones. So what happened to that 'vorsprung durch technik' that SE used to be so good at?
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