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Bonovox
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Well,if not that many people yet want a Windows phone then when they goto steal it from you they might give it back & say "nah,no thanks"   But,I want one in future perhaps when my official upgrade arrives!!
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admad
Joined: May 26, 2005
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From: Poland
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And then, don't you still have to install those Nokia, Samsung, SE, and all other suites software? What's different with Zune?!
Of course not, PC suites are only optional. And also, You are presenting pros of Zune as if Android devices couldn't do that, of course they can, but file transfer is so much faster and easier, not many people use sync software. The main problem with Zune is, it isn't everywhere. I expect from a smartphone that it will work everywhere, not only on Your PC where Zune is installed -_-
HTC give you multiple scenes each with dedicated seven home screens (WTF!!) and still not implemented a landscape mode for the UI! This is ridiculous! One has pre-defined sizable widgets but you can't resize them the way you like..
If You don't like HTC launcher You can always use other launchers like ADW launcher, it's free, and guess what, it doesn't require rooting. And I bet You can't have different launcher in WP7 than thoose funny squares (correct me if I'm wrong) |
Marly
Joined: Jun 04, 2006
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From: Netherlands
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@ahmad:
You don't like it ? Then don't buy it !
It's as simple as that, and that's why it's important to have more choices, OS-wise, so I'm happy with every new OS, and hope it will survive, even if I don't like it (but I do like WP7).
I'm aware that a lot of people think different, especially Android- and iOS-fanboys, they want "their" OS to rule the world, but imo with only two systems to choose from, the smartphone-world would be bland and boring.
Hence I do hope, WP7 will be succesful (and with Nokia hardware, I think it will), I hope, Bada will survive and I certainly hope, MeeGo won't disappear, because it's great !
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julias
Joined: Jan 07, 2009
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@Marly
Agreed i think Mobile OS fanboy's are worse than brand loyalists. I don't have any loyalty to one brand or OS if something better comes along i will give it a try and if its any good will use it its as simples as that,and as in the case here with WP7. I've had pretty much owned and used every major OS available (many Symbian,Android,Bada,Meego and iphones) and i happen to think from my experience with WP7 over the last 2 months that its rather brilliant and has lots of potential which i know it will have specially with the upcoming Mango update.In fact I now love WP7 so much i've decided to stick to it for the foreseeable future.
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Bonovox
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Yes,I am definately not a fan boy of any manufacturer or OS. Variety is the spice of life. Although  over the years have been mostly my faves & I have had more of their handsets including Ericsson than any others,I still cannot just stick to one brand or OS. How boring would that be?? Android is becoming so common place now it's getting stale & boring 
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julias
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Actually I just realised that might be the worlds first Windows Phone 7 fanboy!
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Tsepz_GP
Joined: Dec 27, 2006
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From: Johannesburg, South Africa
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admad
Completely agree! Thats another thing that has put me personaly off WP, lack of freedom to just plug it in to any PC and use it as a mass storage device, i often do that with my X10, its all these little conveniences that we take for granted. Many of the reasons why i dont like WP for myself is for the same reasons i wouldn't pick an iPhone, both have similar weaknesses for my use.
That said, i would still recommend WP to someone who wants a simple ease to use smartphone, but isn't into the iPhone.
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admad
Joined: May 26, 2005
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From: Poland
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@Marly, I won't buy it. I'm just frustrated, because I always wanted to have a Windows Mobile phone. 6.5 was very advanced, but I deicded to wait for the new upcoming WP7, just imagine my disappointment when it came out. They practically used like 20% of 6.5 functionality, and named it and upgrade! When I found out that they didn't even implement copy & paste, all I could do is laugh. Windows smartphone without copy & paste, USB Mass Storage and many other flaws, just funny. Luckly, Android turned out to have everything with practically no limitations. |
false_morel
Joined: Feb 24, 2010
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Android started having acceptable functionality with Froyo! Android had nothing at the start!
WP is not yet one year old. The progress they made is huge! The rate they're moving with is incredible.
They can't do miracles after all. They should be given enough time!
As I told Microsoft are very open in their approach. They're not Apple. They are looking for bringing all the functionality possible to the platform. Working on Bluetooth transfer, Flash, they are also the first to debut hardware acceleration within the browser, all those services integration, and so on..
As said, their approach is to combine iOS's UX with top notch functionality similar to today's Android's and Symbian's and if possible even pass them!
The only feature you seem to pick on and can't accept as missing is mass storage and Zune's caging! Other than that all iOS's limitations aren't there on WP! From Mango onwards..
And concerning this fearure, if you really need it, then don't buy a WP. Simple.
But you and Tsepz can't really argue that Microsoft made another iOS! They took a different approach! And eventually, all of Android's functionality will be offered (but this mass storage) with a way better UX! To the vast majority this would definitely be a winning platform. |
Tsepz_GP
Joined: Dec 27, 2006
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From: Johannesburg, South Africa
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On 2011-09-12 22:33:45, false_morel wrote:
Android started having acceptable functionality with Froyo! Android had nothing at the start!
WP is not yet one year old. The progress they made is huge! The rate they're moving with is incredible.
They can't do miracles after all. They should be given enough time!
As I told Microsoft are very open in their approach. They're not Apple. They are looking for bringing all the functionality possible to the platform. Working on Bluetooth transfer, Flash, they are also the first to debut hardware acceleration within the browser, all those services integration, and so on..
As said, their approach is to combine iOS's UX with top notch functionality similar to today's Android's and Symbian's and if possible even pass them!
The only feature you seem to pick on and can't accept as missing is mass storage and Zune's caging! Other than that all iOS's limitations aren't there on WP! From Mango onwards..
And concerning this fearure, if you really need it, then don't buy a WP. Simple.
But you and Tsepz can't really argue that Microsoft made another iOS! They took a different approach! And eventually, all of Android's functionality will be offered (but this mass storage) with a way better UX! To the vast majority this would definitely be a winning platform.
Im eagerly awaiting for all those features to be thrown in, i doubt WP will pass Android in functionality though, it still has much to cover, in Android2.3.4 USB-OTG is part of the OS, and in the upcoming Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0 update the Widgets become even more customisable, and it brings a lot of Honeycomb features such as Honeycombs far better notifications bar and no need for physical buttons.
I see in the very same way people kept forgetting the Froyo update when comparing Symbian to Android, they are NOW forgetting Ice Cream Sandwich when comparing WP Mango to Android, ICS will bring major UI redesigns, even more features and major tweaks under the hood such as full compatibility with the dual-core CPUs, and GUI HW acceleration, ICS may just catch many off guard. Things are about to get very interesting i must say, its good to have a 3rd competitor in there, although i wish it was WebOS instead of WP.
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false_morel
Joined: Feb 24, 2010
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On 2011-09-12 23:24:44, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Im eagerly awaiting for all those features to be thrown in, i doubt WP will pass Android in functionality though, it still has much to cover, in Android2.3.4 USB-OTG is part of the OS, and in the upcoming Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0 update the Widgets become even more customisable, and it brings a lot of Honeycomb features such as Honeycombs far better notifications bar and no need for physical buttons.
I see in the very same way people kept forgetting the Froyo update when comparing Symbian to Android, they are NOW forgetting Ice Cream Sandwich when comparing WP Mango to Android, ICS will bring major UI redesigns, even more features and major tweaks under the hood such as full compatibility with the dual-core CPUs, and GUI HW acceleration, ICS may just catch many off guard. Things are about to get very interesting i must say, its good to have a 3rd competitor in there, although i wish it was WebOS instead of WP.
Not sure whether I mentioned this here before, but to me Q4 this year is a start of a new era!
And the end of the 2007-2011 era.. The iPhone era! The era with Apple's total domination, Androids replacing Symbians, and of course Nokia and RIM being biggest losers out of this!
This quarter we will get a new nature of iOS devices, new nature of Android devices, and the complete arrival of WP!
However, as much as I want all those rumors about ICS to come true, what makes you that certain about all these points to present them as facts?!
The big things about ICS is merging of Honeycomb and Gingerbread into the next Android version. And the only confirmed thing so far!
It was the closed-source Honeycomb the intruder here. It was a temp tablet solution till everything get ready and now Android will get back onto the right track..
However, the different UIs will be kept! The Honeycomb tablet UI can't be brought to smartphones! How would you do that?! There is absolutely no room to fit all those stuff at the four corners of a smartphone screen!
Smartphones will keep their UI with those physical buttons.
And as to other features you mentioned, if arrived will be Android exclusive, but also WP Mango has its own exclusivities as well! The big loser here is iOS actually!
However, such features would keep Android the leading horse for now.. And would make me think twice about my next upgrade.. However, IF arrived.
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admad
Joined: May 26, 2005
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WP is not yet one year old. The progress they made is huge! The rate they're moving with is incredible.
They can't do miracles after all. They should be given enough time!
Are You serious? Windows Mobile OS was here like I don't know 9 years? It's as old as Symbian. They already had everything they needed. It was their decision to make it so crippled. They just changed the name a little. And don't think that they are working on bluetooth file transfer. As You said they are using iOS approach. Limit as much they can file transfer, so You won't use files not approved by Microsoft... |
false_morel
Joined: Feb 24, 2010
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On 2011-09-13 10:06:20, admad wrote:
Are You serious? Windows Mobile OS was here like I don't know 9 years? It's as old as Symbian. They already had everything they needed. It was their decision to make it so crippled. They just changed the name a little.
Changed the name a little?!
It's a totally new fresh OS coded from scratch!
They did that because WM was a proven failure! It wasn't a true consumer product. Was always meant for enterprise..
WP was designed and built with the consumer in mind. It's all about the UX.
UX proved of much more significance than fiunctionality. The 2007-2011 era dictated this new rule to us!
But there is no harm in getting an ultimate product. And unlike Apple, this is what Microsoft are working on!
As You said they are using iOS approach.
The whole point I'm stressing on is that Microsoft took a different approach than both Apple and Google and been mentioning this in every post.
Then you come and somehow manage to claim that I said: they are using iOS approach.
What is this?!
And don't think that they are working on bluetooth file transfer. Limit as much they can file transfer, so You won't use files not approved by Microsoft...
It's not about what you and I think. It's about what Microsoft reported themselves! |
Tsepz_GP
Joined: Dec 27, 2006
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From: Johannesburg, South Africa
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False Morel
When Google announced Android Ice Cream Sandwich they did announce some features it would have including a redesigned Holographic UI,which is the Honeycomb UI, other things i mentioned are things that Honeycomb 3.2 already has such as resizeable widgets and GUI HW Acceleration. Dual-core optimization is already partly implimented in 2.3.4, and as Honeycomb has dual-core optimization its obvious in ICS the phones will have it to.
The UI will reconfigure itself, if you've used Honeycomb you'll know that the UI resorts itself between landscape and portrait, they can throw it into the phone, the widgets will be resizable so the scrolling HC widgets can be made smaller.
Heres a link to what Google said and what they demoed of ICS: http://www.slashgear.com/ice-[....]nounced-at-google-io-10151145/
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false_morel
Joined: Feb 24, 2010
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Where in that link is any of what you said mentioned?!
So far everything concerning Ice Cream Sandwich is rumors! But the mere thing that both Android versions will be merged is a major thing by itself! It's definitely a new Android we're looking at.
Of course new features and optimizations will arrive, but not all of what's been circling around..
Anyway, this thread is about WP! Let's stay on topic. And for comparison purposes, unless there are confirmed official info there is no point in bringing these stuff to this discussion.. | |
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Posted: 2011-09-12 15:01
