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bavlondon2
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On 2008-11-05 08:47:16, brownie1989 wrote:
I dont get a vote as i live in UK but wanted obama to win. Couldnt believe my eas when it was anounced on kiss DAB digital radio. So i quickly grabbed my phone and went onto the google newr rss feed and found out. Told my mum she turned on radio stoke dab and confirmed
If your American I read today that you can claim a freebie at Starbucks/Krisy Kreme......lol  Congrats to you anyway. IMO It's not just America which has gained from this but everyone associated with them.
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gforce23
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On 2008-11-05 10:02:22, bavlondon2 wrote:
On 2008-11-05 08:47:16, brownie1989 wrote:
I dont get a vote as i live in UK but wanted obama to win. Couldnt believe my eas when it was anounced on kiss DAB digital radio. So i quickly grabbed my phone and went onto the google newr rss feed and found out. Told my mum she turned on radio stoke dab and confirmed
If your American I read today that you can claim a freebie at Starbucks/Krisy Kreme......lol Congrats to you anyway. IMO It's not just America which has gained from this but everyone associated with them.
Not just free coffee and donuts, but free tacos, chicken, cheesecakes, ice cream, MP3 music, clothes and (ahem!) sex toys too, according to this link.
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Bonovox
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The one thing that people should be aware of is that in a place like America bad things happen to Presidents. The sad reality is that with him being Americas first black leader someone is going to try to kill him. Its horrible saying that but its true but maybe no more than people wanted Bush dead. God Bush was awful. |
bavlondon2
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On 2008-11-05 11:16:00, Bonovox wrote:
The one thing that people should be aware of is that in a place like America bad things happen to Presidents. The sad reality is that with him being Americas first black leader someone is going to try to kill him. Its horrible saying that but its true but maybe no more than people wanted Bush dead. God Bush was awful.
There will always be people who dont agree with the policy but it's up to the secret service to protect him. I'm sure he will be fine. And remember more WHITE people voted for Obama than those who voted for both Kerry and Gore in previous years so it just goes to show how far he has managed to reach.
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carrier1
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Am I off-topic when I ask: how probable is a black/muslim PM for Britain or Ireland or Germany or France? Just a thought...
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Nanu
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Or a mixed-raced PM, like Obama?
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gforce23
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On 2008-11-05 12:11:34, carrier1 wrote:
Am I off-topic when I ask: how probable is a black/muslim PM for Britain or Ireland or Germany or France? Just a thought...
Those are two entirely different questions. Muslims can be white, latino or Asian. I know Blacks (or African-Americans) who are orthodox Christians, Buddhists or even agnostic.
France has a lot of immigrants from northern Africa, so I'd say that would be the country most likely to have either (or both) demographic as president. I may be completely wrong though. |
Vlammetje
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For UK, Germany, NL, France I'd have to say VERY unlikely.
And I would've thought the same about the USA until recently. So this vote speaks volumes about the want for change by the larger part of the American public. I am awed by all this
The thing that always confuses me when Democrats and Republicans in the US switch places, is the act of undoing policies and such. So much change (some for good, some for bad) and so little security that it will last any longer than 8 yrs..... it must be unsettling to be a US citizen at times!
Right now I have only a few great hopes:
-that he will make it through his 4 year term
-that he will bring about the 'change' that so many expect from him
-that he can unite all americans for him
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bavlondon2
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It will be a long process given they are in a recession. It took 8 years to get America in the mess they are in so it wont be quick to start fixing things.
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Dups!
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@Vlammetjie
Hmmmmmm! Let's see.....
For Germany- HELL NO, make that triple HELL NO!
For UK- very slim chances but.... Probably another 20 years.
France- more like the UK
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bavlondon2
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There is too much of a stigma attached with muslims in UK and the rest of Europe. And with fears of Sharia law being introduced here the general population feel that there are plans to ultimatley turn Britain into an Islamic state. I wouldnt't expect to see a Muslim PM for at least 30 - 50 years.
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Bonovox
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America(obviously)has bigger population than UK and bigger black population. So does France and Germany. France has 6 million muslims but i still dont see a black or muslim leader in any of these countries happening. Not in my lifetime anyway. But another thing that gets me the world over and especially in UK US FRANCE and so on. Every leader says CHANGE WILL HAPPEN and the people get excited. But in reality it never happens. Obama has alot of work to do from the damage caused by bloody Bush. But i dont see it happening im afraid. Unless Obama being the type of guy he is can establish good relations with the middle east.
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bavlondon2
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You cant compare Muslims to Black people in terms of getting elected. There is an ongoing war in Iraq and Afghanistan and whilst we will eventually pull out of Iraq I wouldn't expect us to pull troops out of Afghanistan for at least 10 years at the earliest. Obama has even said he will send more troops into Afghanistan.
Then there is the problem of religion and how big a part that plays in the beliefs of some of these nations. It's just too messy to see anything like the Obama situation arising.
It's nice to see so many people celebrating in the streets (white and black). I dont think America has this since John Kennedy. I cant wait to see his inaugeration. lol Should be quite different to Bush's last inaugeration in which he had to sit in his limo as it was pelted with eggs haha
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aatuif
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congratulations to barak hossein obama on the massive victory... 
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carrier1
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On 2008-11-05 14:15:30, bavlondon2 wrote:
Bush's last inaugeration in which he had to sit in his limo as it was pelted with eggs haha
that is one of michael moore's inventions! He fiddled the footage!!! Watch 'manufacturing dissent'!!!
As to 'you can't compare muslim amd black'... So it's vacant?! No real progress, right?!
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