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QVGA
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Its hard to tell how much memory Vista is using exactly because its cached almost 99% of it. So on a task manager you might see free RAM as about 4MB or 1MB but it doesnt actually mean vista is using up 99% of it, it only means it cached it.
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arien617
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I have a resource monitor and out of 2GB, Vista leaves 1GB of it free!
That's just f*cking shocking!
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Dogmann
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Hi arien67
I don't know why you are so hung up on figures as all that really matters to me is if it does all i want when i want it to. That's it figures and free RAM i couldn't care less about and quite simply if Vista doesn't do what you want or you don't like it just don't use it would be my suggestion. But it appears myself a lots of others are more than happy with how our Vista computers run.
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arien617
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I understand you Marc, but the figures relate to performance, do they not?
If my computer's OS is using half the RAM that's available, it's kinda major.
Until RAM does become much lower price, I can't justify Vista, bar the machines running it can be dirt cheap. Processor wise, 1.86Ghz, 20% from each core does seem to be in use at all times, unless it's totally idle, whereas that figure on OS X (see pic) is much lower. Ok, it is 2.4Ghz, but still, it being 99-100% idle is quite impressive..
To be fair, I'm not at all happy with Vista, and wasn't from day 1. Seeing much less of it now. It's probably the Mac fan inside me speaking, but I do prefer Leopard over Vista.
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Dogmann
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Hi arien67
That's fine by me no one says you have to if we all liked exactly the same things always the world would be a very boring place IMO. One of the things about Vista that did impress me though was i added 2GB of RAM with a USB memory key that was was Ready Boost enabled at a really cheap price as opposed to adding real Ram at a high cost. Although obviously it's not as good but it did the job and made a huge improvement for very little cost.
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arien617
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I felt ReadyBoost did make a difference, but it just takes up space on my memory key. Real RAM is the only way in my opinion, and just too costly for my liking.
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i dont know why people fork out for a £150+~ OS just to do web surfing and word processing when there are free alternatives!! /9that use up far less system resources)
another thing is, if you have a bug with windows... its a case of Live with it!!, whereas with linux, you can submit a bug report or a wish list for things you want / need ( launchpad )
i really dont see the point in forking out £150+~ for an OS!!
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QVGA
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On 2008-05-05 00:50:20, paul101 wrote:
i dont know why people fork out for a £150+~ OS just to do web surfing and word processing when there are free alternatives!! /9that use up far less system resources)
another thing is, if you have a bug with windows... its a case of Live with it!!, whereas with linux, you can submit a bug report or a wish list for things you want / need ( launchpad )
i really dont see the point in forking out £150+~ for an OS!!
Linux has terrible support for games and software. Thats why even now only about 1 % people use it.
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arien617
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None of us Mac/Linux uses play games then, QVGA..
Consoles for gaming, computers for other things. I mean there's like a million different versions of Office and Vista.. Only one OS X and iWork...
And it's only £80, unlike the million odd quid for Vista Ultimate.
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Cycovision
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Erm...
The memory usage for OS X in that picture was about 800Mb, which is the same as Vista reports using on my laptop!
Anyway, as Marc and others have said the figures don't really mean anything. It's just horses for courses. I used a Macbook for ages but I've never really liked Mac OS much so I ended up selling it.
But you won't hear me slagging it off. I can understand why some people prefer it to Windows but I can't understand why some Mac users seem so hell bent on putting windows down 
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max_wedge
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On 2008-05-04 23:06:02, arien617 wrote:
I understand you Marc, but the figures relate to performance, do they not?
If my computer's OS is using half the RAM that's available, it's kinda major.
That just means it's efficient enough that it doesn't need to use ALL the RAM for simple operations. Open 20 IE windows then load up Photoshop with 20 100MB images then tell me it's not using all the RAM. Using the same argument you have proposed, we would expect CPU to be running at 100% all the time also. Now I know many spyware infected computers this is the case, but it's not standard operation. 
@cycovision, like you I have noticed that it always seems to be the MAC users who bring up the Windows versus MAC argument. It's like they have a constant need to reassure themselves that they are better than the average windows pleb. 
Another thing I notice, is that since OS X has adopted a UNIX core, MAC users love to equate themselves with the Linux community. In my mind Apple products couldn't be further from the Open Source "free as in beer" philosophy that underpins Linux.
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markztrance
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VISTA
V - VIRUSES
I - INTRUDERS
S - SPYWARE
T - TROJANS
A - ADWARES
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ronkx
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but i think vista is made more secure so that less of that you said can go in |
Cycovision
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^^^
Yeah there hasn't been any serious virus scares yet, like MSBlast and Sasser when XP first came out. Bearing in mind that every hacker and script kiddy in the world have probably been working flat out to try and be the first to 'kill' Vista, that's not bad going really.
UAC people! Don't turn it off unless it causes serious problems. Another way of looking at it; if you don't like UAC you're going to hate Linux!
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ronkx
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well, maybe thos apple guys are working on to break vista's security >=D |
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