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DonJuan
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:10
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lol @ locouk

Well i was just looking over the N95 and it has some good features. Im shocked that it has such a high quality lense and no xenon flash.
Im not really fussed about an mp3 player because i have a 60gb video i pod.
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:25
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On 2007-05-10 22:10:26, DonJuan wrote:
Im shocked that it has such a high quality lenses and no xenon flash.


then how come k800 takes better pictures than n95?
QVGA
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:26
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i don't know why everybody is talking about the xenon flash? seriously, whats with the double standard? just because SE introduced xenon flash doesn't mean it automatically becomes a benchmark for other manufacturers!
with this in mind you should complain why K800 has only 3MP and not 10MP like the samsung mobile. And why P1 doesn't have GPS when N95 does.

so please, let go of the xenon flash. i am sure if SE hadn't introduced it and instead LG did, and it worked the same for them, no one would have ever said that SE needs to incorporate xenon as well.
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:27
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cos the cybershot feature came better out then the nokia-cz mixture
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DonJuan
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:34
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i complain about the xenon flash because even with the xenon flash my k800 still takes poor pics at low light and night conditions.
If phone companies want to use such high quality lenses then why would they still stick with something of the past like a led flash
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:37
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theses are mobile fones with some extra features, like the cam. for quality pix i use the digi cam, for fun these mobile cams are ok, but thats it.
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antichrist
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:41
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donjuan, if you want a good picture at night, buy a digicam. you also get a bigger xenon flash, very big lenses and a lot of tech mobile phones doesn't have
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:41
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But you have to admit that with phone companies using higher megapixels all the time and better lenses its not just for fun anymore. People are using them for more serious purposes than mms messaging

@antichrist I have a really good digi cam but sometimes i dont have it on me. If im out at night and i wanna take a pic thats where my phone comes in handy

[ This Message was edited by: DonJuan on 2007-05-10 21:42 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:43
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On 2007-05-10 22:41:36, DonJuan wrote:
But you have to admit that with phone companies using higher megapixels all the time and better lenses its not just for fun anymore. People are using them for more serious purposes than mms messaging

@antichrist I have a really good digi cam but sometimes i dont have it on me. If im out at night and i wanna take a pic thats where my phone comes in handy

[ This Message was edited by: DonJuan on 2007-05-10 21:42 ]

u didnt read my post. do u agree with what i said? that you're talking about xenon flash only because SE introduced it?
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:45
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i dont want that fones turn to digi cams. when brands offer cybershot and cz feature in a fone, thats just exaggarating. just comapare a real cybershot or cz pix with the mobile ones. its biz, nothing else. they drive the ppl crazy with writing cybershot on a mobile and ppl think, wow, no i have the same quality in my pocket as with a sony cam. thats crap. same to cz mobil cams...
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Posted: 2007-05-10 22:48
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On 2007-05-10 22:25:43, antichrist wrote:

On 2007-05-10 22:10:26, DonJuan wrote:
Im shocked that it has such a high quality lenses and no xenon flash.


then how come k800 takes better pictures than n95?


Now which comic book did you get that from?
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Posted: 2007-05-11 00:19
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i never said that the N95 is a piece of crap but i don't agree that it does everything because it doesn't it has Excellent features but i compared it to the SE P990 and i found that P990 is better for me although there are a lot of people complained about the p990 but i found out if you know how to really use it and understand the tricks you won't have any problems besides the p990 can use external memory up to 8GB. but the N95 is only up to 2GB.
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Posted: 2007-05-11 00:24
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On 2007-05-10 22:48:06, upper wrote:

On 2007-05-10 22:25:43, antichrist wrote:

On 2007-05-10 22:10:26, DonJuan wrote:
Im shocked that it has such a high quality lenses and no xenon flash.


then how come k800 takes better pictures than n95?


Now which comic book did you get that from?


The following comic book:

http://www.mobileburn.com/story.jsp?Id=3298

I'm sure I got the link from this forum originally.


For my money, the K800 takes better photos in general real world situations - in spite of having 1.8 million fewer photosites on its sensor. The N95 is certainly capable of taking better photos than the K800 when the conditions are right, it just seems that those situations are not as common as one might hope for.
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Dogmann
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Posted: 2007-05-11 02:10
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Hi all,

I really fail to see how or why the N95 and the P990 are being compared with each other as one is a full on business device with some Multimedia abilities. Whilst the other is a Multimedia device with business abilities unless you add a SU-8W bluetooth keyboard the N95 is not ideally suited for Data Entry or editing on a large scale. Although it is more than able to accomplish these tasks, just look at the niche market the P990 sells to and compare that to the wider market and the numbers that the N95 has sold already and all this from a much more expensive device than the P990.

If you want to compare like for like fair enough but then compare an SE M600 with a E61, or an E61i with the soon to be launched P1 at least they are both targeted at the same markets.

Also the P990 has been out 9 months already and the N95 just over a month and you really can't compare spec's at all but then they are designed to do different things.

The N95 without the faster processor and full version of the graphics chip would not be able to support VGA 30fps video recording which is very much part of it's multimedia abilities.

The P990 as primarily a business device this is not deemed to be of such great importance, can't we all stop this constant mines brilliant your is rubbish comments it really is getting very tiresome, for those that want a touchscreen and SE the P990 is the ultimate device and they wouldn't swap them for anything for those that prefer the N95 great let them enjoy them also, just use what you want like or need and accept your choice isn't right for everyone although it is for you.

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DonJuan
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Posted: 2007-05-11 02:53
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Yeah i didnt really wanna start a flaming war. Just wanted a bit of advice guys. Qvga you mentioned the xenon flash, well i do like my k800 but that is what lets it down. I think that if nokia produce a 5 mega pixel camera phone they should back it up with a decent flash. Its big enough! I dont think i'd go for the n95. Its too big and has features i'd probably never use. You say about everyone using xenon flash cus sony ericsson did. Well its been around for a while and it would be the obvious next step in camera phones.
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