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masseur
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Posted: 2007-05-09 11:50
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I lost the plot a while back but I can confirm what jcwhite_uk said is correct... if that helps
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Posted: 2007-05-09 12:01
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On 2007-05-09 11:46:47, 786KBR wrote:

On 2007-05-09 11:44:54, masseur wrote:
enough already with the quoting!



Maybe you could help with the difference in screens? Coz I know Ms VGA hasnt even touched a N95.


i did. but the last thing i wanted to do to a 900$ device was to press its screen. i am not saying i dont believe you, i am just saying i didnt read anywhere N95 doesnt have a normal TFT screen.
you on the other hand can be nice, i know its hard for someone like you, but please do try it.
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Posted: 2007-05-09 12:57
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My input.

262K is sufficient on phones for now, until we get some batteries which are capable with high colour screens. Until then, I'd rather the extra hours of talktime! The 6131, N95, 6300 (just to name a few), all have disappointing battery life because the screens aren't matched to a high capacity battery.

And here's what TFT/LCD etc. means.

LCD is a display type achieved with liquid crystals, hence the name Liquid Crystal Display.

Then there are different types of LCD displays, like there are different types of fruits.

TFT is the most popular because it is bright, has a fast refresh rate, and good colour and contrast.

There are other types of display like TFD, UBC, CSTN, STN, and OLED.

The reason why you can 'squash' the screen of the N95 is because it doesn't have a glass cover in front of it. The K800 has glass in front of the screen so you can directly touch the screen or damage it.

That's a simple intro into LCDs!
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Posted: 2007-05-09 13:00
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Can you explain the difference in White colours and Black colours on the 2 phones.

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Posted: 2007-05-09 13:15
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On 2007-05-09 13:00:59, 786KBR wrote:

Can you explain the difference in White colours and Black colours on the 2 phones.

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so basically all phones have LCD and the fact that N95 has it too is nothing new.
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Posted: 2007-05-09 14:00
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a TFT screen is a type of LCD. the reason you can't press on it is because there is a glass protective layer as mentioned, cos' LCD screens tends to be suspectible to shock.

no denying that 16M displays looks better both on paper and in real life, i.e. Nokia 6300. the ability to display more colors translate to a better and more accurate reproduction of images (hue, saturation, ect.).
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Posted: 2007-05-09 14:03
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On 2007-05-09 13:15:52, QVGA wrote:

On 2007-05-09 13:00:59, 786KBR wrote:

Can you explain the difference in White colours and Black colours on the 2 phones.

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[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2007-05-09 12:01 ]

so basically all phones have LCD and the fact that N95 has it too is nothing new.


Its new coz it will scratch easier and leak quicker and is not as clear as other "LCD" screens!!
Do you have a LCD TV at home? I have a 32" screen at home and the normal broadcast (we dont have HD in SA atm) is the same as the N95.
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Posted: 2007-05-09 14:16
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On 2007-05-09 12:57:36, shaliron wrote:

262K is sufficient on phones for now, until we get some batteries which are capable with high colour screens. Until then, I'd rather the extra hours of talktime! The 6131, N95, 6300 (just to name a few), all have disappointing battery life because the screens aren't matched to a high capacity battery.



good point there. I think that's all that needs to be said really. SE hasn't come up with a platform to support 16M colors in fact, I think, and there's no point as yet as shaliron mentioned in terms of practicality. better than using a 16M display just for the sake of it even when the platform doesn't support it.
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Posted: 2007-05-09 14:25
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On 2007-05-09 10:21:39, LEVO 75 wrote:

On 2007-05-09 10:11:33, aragorn666 wrote:
low end se phones screen is bad when camparde to low end nokia phones.
but for performence se is superior.



Your spelling and grammar is bad compared to that of a 6 year old.

so what? do you think everyone was born in uk or america? do you think everyone was born knowing english?
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Posted: 2007-05-09 14:30
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they're all lcd screen...

the differenence is nokia isn't using a hard screen protector.....

if you took the housing off of any phone.. and turned it on and stuck your finger on the screen they would all discolor like that
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Posted: 2007-05-09 14:45
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On 2007-05-09 14:30:40, DragonEye wrote:
they're all lcd screen...

the differenence is nokia isn't using a hard screen protector.....

if you took the housing off of any phone.. and turned it on and stuck your finger on the screen they would all discolor like that


But we have all agreed to some extent that what you say is true.
My question again is why is it the the colour is not as alive as other LCD wit hard screen protectors?? There is a big difference.

I actually believe its a normal high res LCD screen and no TFT in it. If that makes any sense.
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Posted: 2007-05-09 14:51
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On 2007-05-08 23:19:23, BobaFett wrote:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=145269&start=0

[ This Message was edited by: BobaFett on 2007-05-08 22:43 ]


Both those phones are 265K .. thats not our subject

Battery life doesnt bother me since i charge my phone every night

The thing here is that there is no SE phone that can compare with the screen quality of my 6300.. And for the that say that your eye cant see the difference, try to compare an 6300 with any SE in real life... Im a big SE Fan but im not returning untill i see a better display

[ This Message was edited by: AntonisCy on 2007-05-09 13:56 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-09 14:58
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in most phones, there will be an LCD protector glass or hard plastic cover attached to protect the screen. this is regardless of brand, as it is a basic practicality considering the fragile nature of LCD displays. of course if you take the cover off, you can 'touch' the real LCD surface, not only with Nokia but with any other phones as well. as far as I know, the only phone without such a layer of protection is the Nokia 6131. so it's not true to say that Nokia phones do not have the protective layer.

for the n95, the display is confirmed to be 16M color TFT (http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/sections/products/tech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n95_en_R1.html). why does it distort when pressed? some phone displays use cheaper plastic to protect the LCD, which would both distort the color and also be soft enough to press. I think this is the case with the n95. there is also the light sensor, which adjust the display backlight accordingly and could affect the colors displayed.



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On 2007-05-09 14:51:33, AntonisCy wrote:

On 2007-05-08 23:19:23, BobaFett wrote:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=145269&start=0

[ This Message was edited by: BobaFett on 2007-05-08 22:43 ]


Both those phones are 265K .. thats not our subject

Battery life doesnt bother me since i charge my phone every night

The thing here is that there is no SE phone that can compare with the screen quality of my 6300.. And for the that say that your eye cant see the difference, try to compare an 6300 with any SE in real life... Im a big SE Fan but im not returning untill i see a better display

[ This Message was edited by: AntonisCy on 2007-05-09 13:56 ]


I havent seen the 6300 screens as yet, so cant say much about it.
But if you charge yr phone everynight, probably of high usage the N95 will suck for you!! In one day ok i was up for almost 24 hr on Saturday, at 3am I couldnt take a picture coz the battery died.
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Posted: 2007-05-09 15:01
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@antonisyc

true, there is no SE phone so far that can match the display of the Nokia 6300 and some others with 16M colors. but the point being, the display does take up a lot of power. if you feel that this is a good compromise, having a good display in place of extended battery life, then fair enough. but battery life is a more important priority to a lot others I believe.
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