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max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-02-09 01:26
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pdf files do conform to a standard, but there is no "internet" standard that says a device MUST support pdf reading. In fact even IE doesn't do it out of the box - you need to install the ADOBE designed IE plug-in.

So it's up to Adobe, not SE, to make with the J2ME pdf reader.

The PDF standard relates to how the document is structured, not where it will be used (as S4k1s said).
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Posted: 2006-02-09 02:22
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now i really understand this thread... thanx maxie!
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optiplex
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Posted: 2006-02-09 03:58
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Actually why doesn't Adobe do it? Already there are pdf readers for smart phones and one Java based reader for Siemens (as stated earlier in the thread). So it shouldn’t be much of a problem, right? Besides; if they come up with a solid J2ME pdf reader, that will do lot of good for pdf reputation/standard with relatively little effort from Adobe.
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Posted: 2006-02-09 04:20
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yes indeed.. adjustments are from the roots to the stem not the other way around... got it!
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max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-02-09 05:07
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agree optiplex (and rockgali - like your analogy )

Adobe could easily whip one of these out and it would indeed improve the circulation of the pdf format.

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Posted: 2006-02-11 17:43
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this is cool
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Posted: 2006-02-11 18:36
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Anyone can write a Java-based PDF reader without paying royalties to Adobe because PDF is most definitely an 'Open Standard', and has been for years. This is one of the main reasons why it triumphed over other competing formats in the mid-Nineties. Indeed, Apple chose PDF as the on-screen drawing paradigm for Mac OS X instead of the superior Display PostScript format because PDF was free
and Display PostScript wasn't.

You can find more information about the PDF standard here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format
http://partners.adobe.com/pub[....]loper/pdf/index_reference.html
http://partners.adobe.com/pub[....]pport/topic_legal_notices.html
max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-03-02 03:05
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yes but for years you had to pay licence fees to adobe to design software that outputs pdf files.

So it was an open standard, but only for viewing. That's not quite the same thing as a jpeg file for example, which is truly free and open.

The adobe format was "common" because adobe allowed a free viewer, how nice of them. But "open" and "common" are two different things.

It's only in the last year or two that cheap (legal) pdf creation alternatives to Adobe Professional have come about. This is because adobe finally relaxed their licencing and made it more affordable for developers to make pdf creation software.
slugworth
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Posted: 2006-07-25 03:09
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heres an idea, for the money u spent on the phone you could of brout a cheep old P3 or P2 laptop and used that to read ur PDF's on the move lol

and even used the phone to browse the net holy $!*7 the boy has a brain
w800br
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Posted: 2006-07-25 17:03
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The thing is that we don't want our phones to become a smartphone, but what we want is a REALLY GOOD MULTIMEDIA phone, what it was intended to be, So thats why many users wants the ability to read PDF files in the phone.
Besides this, It would be really cool if we could read e-books (and this is not just PDF format but chm too [which can be converted to html and perfect read in the phone with bultin browser])
The question that still remains is... the phone can support an J2ME PDF reader?
slugworth
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Posted: 2006-07-25 18:24
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i like my idea better
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fanbanlo
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Posted: 2006-07-26 08:36
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Pdf reader and Movie player playing at native res with fast forward for W800/K750 are two programs i've been waiting for...
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Posted: 2006-07-26 09:25
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mayb this has been mentioned before mayb not..i didnt read the whole thread properly..jus scanned through
but wat about picsel viewer ...samsung d600 has it and it allows u to view pdf and word documents..so how about a java picsel viewer or one for SE.
or is it only usable wid samsungs
slugworth
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Posted: 2006-07-26 18:56
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PDF files via the web take to long to D/l (on GPRS) so its gonna cost u a fortune why do people neeed this feture? USE UR PC OR A LAPTOP?! its a mobile not a pc
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w800br
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Posted: 2006-07-26 19:31
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I've found an solution for those who wants to read E-Books on W800 or K750i, Don't know if it would be usefull for other type of PDF usage but...
There is a program called PDF2CHM, which convert PDF to HTML files and then u have the possibilty to convert to CHM files.
The good thing about this program is that it converts to html with the images that were in the PDF, you just have to select in the program to convert the images to jpg format because it standart setting is to convert to png files, so it opens very slowly on the phone.
But this program is just perfect for that purpouse, keeps the file like it was and with the images, and then with builtin browser you can easily read.
If the book is in CHM format is even easier (should had I typed this with y?). There's a program, which unfurtunately I can't remember the name, that extract html files from the CHM, because CHM is made of inumerous html files. So with the proper program you can extract those files and read in the phone.
Although this is not an solution for viewing PDF files, it surely is for those who want's to read E-books in the phone in PDF or CHM format.
Hope this had helped someone and sorry for my english.
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