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mrao
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another one for good measure
mario seems to have chickened out... i bet he hasn't even held a N90 in his hands...leave alone clicked macro shots with it 
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shafayet
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Amras. Thanks. I didn't realize u were a girl. sorry abt that.
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and where's the chicken? nokia guy...did i scare u? hell get ur ass bak here and upload some photos. |
max_wedge
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mario never sticks around to argue the point. mib1800 on the other hand is more than ready to get down and dirty 
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johnpete
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I also had that before, but then I tried experimenting with manually manipulating the settings
Nightmode, used as is (lots of noise):
Nightmode, with brightness lowered 2 notches (nudge to the left) from previous (a bit less noise):
Following are nightmode shots, taking amount of light into consideration & adjusting brightness accordingly for each shot (most are darker than the location taken in the 2 above photos):
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max_wedge
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Johnpete, those are excellent examples of what can be achieved with a little practice and getting to know the camera.
Peeps have been claiming ever since the K750 came out that low light pics are really bad. I've never accepted that you can't get good results. When I first got my K750 and discovered my night shots came out shit, I hunkered down and experimented with settings until they got better.
Many people are blaming their poor night shots on the camera and not considering their own inexperience.
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johnpete
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thanks, max! yup, i almost always use my K750 for interesting shots at night now, rather than daytime, ever since i tried experimenting with the settings. our old 2-megapix digicams don't even get shots quite as good (probably because of the newer technology in the k750 lens, software, etc) at night.
another thing everyone will probably notice is that having a steady hand spells a lot of difference, even without nightmode. but i guess that's been the challenge for autofocus cameras (whether film, digital or phonecams) ever since it got invented. but it sure beats having a fixed focus anytime...
another trick to try: use macromode and get real close to your subject in the foreground, which is quite far away from a background that's preferably a bright, solid color but with some details (like a tapestry or patterned curtain); put your subject in the center and press the cam button down but not all the way, just enough to get a focus on your subject; after hearing the beep that you have your focus locked, move your subject to off-center of your framing and then take the picture. you can then use the photo as a background for a presentation title page with text in the middle where the background is blurred and your focused subject is on the side, used as a graphic. here are a couple examples, although i don't have a nice curtain/tapestry here, i just used everyday locations in our office:
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Amras
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couldn't agree more with you max_wedge. 
just a simple learn, and produce beautiful night-shots.
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Amras
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| another trick to try: use macromode and get real close to your subject in the foreground, which is quite far away from a background that's preferably a bright, solid color but with some details (like a tapestry or patterned curtain); put your subject in the center and press the cam button down but not all the way, just enough to get a focus on your subject; after hearing the beep that you have your focus locked, move your subject to off-center of your framing and then take the picture. you can then use the photo as a background for a presentation title page with text in the middle where the background is blurred and your focused subject is on the side, used as a graphic. |
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Nice trick. I assume not many knew this although that's some old photography trick, mate.  i've tried it so many times in my K750i, too. actually, not only for macroshot. It works as well for distant shots.
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johnpete
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right you are, amras! it's really great that a phonecam can now do these classic photography tricks! i used to try it with older models & the results are just not usable. now, even if i don't have a camera with me, i can make quick magic graphic fixes bcos of the features of the handy K750. and its not hard at all, they just have to know their baby a little bit more and those lines & noise are gone in a sec! |
Amras
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Here are another ones. The first one was taken by my K750i. The second one was taken by my Canon 3.2MP. Still not a rival to real digital camera anyway. But, very good for a phone camera.
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choclate
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k750i night pic with rn firmware
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kristianm
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johnpete, I can't view your images on their actual full size. |
max_wedge
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just delete the ".thm" part of the url and hit enter
johnpete, yep that focus trick is neat. As soon as I heard the K750 had auto focus I wondered if you could half press to focus and hold, just like on a "real" camera. I wasn't disappointed
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kristianm
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Thanks, max_wedge. I just did a view source (page code) and manually copy the href's . . . Weird, must be a browser problem. (I tried clicking the thumbnail and nothing's happening, as if they're not a link.)
There's this thing about the pictures taken by my W800i that's been bothering me for a long time now.
Do your pictures (from K750/W800) show as much gridline noise patterns as mine?
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Look closely at the baby's face and my mother's hand holding her. The vertical lines are much more apparent (right side of image). What worries me is that these grid noise shows up on dark/black objects even when I take pictures on bright places, which suggest that they couldn't really be the normal noise due to low light conditions.
And I'm trying to compare it also with pictures from K750 and W800 posted all over the internet and I don't see other pictures showing this grid noise pattern. 
What's wrong with my phone?! 
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johnpete
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The links used to work, but today they don't seem to. I thought it was just my browser or something in my network connection, but apparently everyone seems to be experiencing it. I guess either esato or imageshack changed something in either of their systems.
Kristianm, try lowering the brightness right before taking the pictures. I also thought when I upgraded to R1N035 that instead of improving my pictures they got worse, but apparently something in the auto settings (gamma, aperture opening, or exposure, I'm not quite sure) lets the camera get too much brightness in (even before I upgraded, I just didn't notice it before), hence the lines in the final product. If you have time, manually tweak the settings. If you need to get an immediate shot, I find that lowering the brightness (nudge the joystick to the left) is a quickie solution. You'd have to try it a few times to familiarize yourself which is just the right contrast (between light & dark) in the display minimizes those nasty lines. Try it out in different light conditions and view each shot with the zoom function right after. A few minutes of this & eventually most of the time you'll be able to tell, just by looking at the display, without really testing anymore.
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Posted: 2005-11-07 11:38
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