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amirprog
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Posted: 2015-07-16 13:33
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I wouldn't say confusing but surprisingly awesome. it usually takes sony 1.5-2 months to launch a new flag in most regions as far as i remember, one of their weaknesses, especially in the us. if they manage to launch them as close as possible to announcement time then it is only an advantage for them regardless of rivals launch date. sony doesn't have anything new to offer in a lot of countries and when z3+ is available it is not so attractive option.
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ascariss
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Posted: 2015-07-16 13:40
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Will the 820 be ready by mid to late September? I mean will it ship to customers or will Sony only introduce it at IFA? Reports are for the 820 to be ready for a November shipping date unless Qualcomm has brought up the release date and devices will ship in September or early October? Around 5-6 weeks before anything could be announced.
josephnero
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Posted: 2015-07-17 00:28
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http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]e-same-time-next-month_id71621

T4 and C5 are different phones now?
amirprog
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Posted: 2015-07-17 08:50
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Yes, because of different codes. e55xx, e57xx i guess c5 and t5 ultra. it is not surprising and welcomed that "ultra" for sony now means a 5.8" display.
ascariss
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Posted: 2015-07-17 09:56
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Ok there seems to be a mix up on model numbers and some confusion.

According to upleaks lavender = C5 ultra, E55xx and the 56xx specs leaked a while back, showing a 4.6 inch device, so clearly not the T4 or C5 ultra.

E20xx - E4g
E21xx - E4
E23xx - M4 Aqua
E53xx - C4
E55xx - Lavender = C5 ultra
E56xx - ??? - 4.6 inch device, cheap man's compact?
E58xx - Next compact?
E65xx - Z3+
E66xx - New flagship?
E68xx - New Phablet?

And now all of a sudden a new product code comes out?

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]e-same-time-next-month_id71621

Not saying the mobipicker source is questionable, but it just shows a photo of specs someone wrote out, I feel anyone can do that and just post it. Regardless, let us assume the E57xx exists, where does it fit?

E53xx - C4
E55xx - Lavender = C5 ultra (rumoured at 5.5 inches? basically exact same specs as C4!, makes no sense)
E56xx - ??? - 4.6 inch device, cheap mans compact?
E57xx - 5.8 inch, SD808, 1080p.

Conflicting reports, upleaks states the E55xx lavender is the C5 ultra, while other sites are saying the opposite, E55xx is T4 ultra, and E57xx is the C5 ultra. Personally I am not sure what to believe, with SD808 this phone does not feel mid-range, unless the 808 is considered mid-range now?

Either the specs of lavender are wrong, it is not a 5.5inch with the same mediatek as the C4 but a larger 5.7-6 inch device, or sony is replacing the C4 with the C5 ultra to keep the naming in line, or the e57xx is a China only model.
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amirprog
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Posted: 2015-07-17 10:33
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Well, one thing for sure, everything will be clear in a month and a half - ifa.
E57xx is the cheap man's ultra.
worst case senario:
E56xx - ??? - 4.6 inch device, cheap mans compact?
E57xx - 5.8 inch, SD808, 1080p.
ends as the next z5 ultra and compact. i'm just kidding though, i can't see it happening especially after the next z5 line codes were published months ago and the spec is upper mid/non flag high end.
as you wrote the naming are confusing, maybe intentionally by sony but another thing for sure these are c/t or whatever devices, not flags.
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josephnero
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Posted: 2015-07-17 12:08
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5.8 inch, SD808, 1080p,16MP cam.seems like a decent mid/upper range with 3GB RAM.will be my next back up gaming etc device
ascariss
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Posted: 2015-07-17 12:09
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These do seem mid-range but is the SD808 mid-range? or upper end of mid-range? It doesn't have h.265 encode, only h.264 which is a let down when it comes to 4K. I feel the E56xx cheap man's compact with the mediatek X10 will be a good bargain if priced right.
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Posted: 2015-07-17 13:35
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I think they should ditch the SD808 (which also gets pretty hot and drains the battery) and wait for SD620. Geekbench results from testing samples are very promising.
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randomuser
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Posted: 2015-07-17 13:46
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I think everyone here needs to lower their expectations from the Z5 as far as the chipset is concerned. No SD820
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Posted: 2015-07-17 14:34
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ascariss
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Posted: 2015-07-17 14:51
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It all depends when the Z5 will come to market, if mid to late September is when it will hit stores, then I doubt the SD820 will come along for the ride, more realistically will be the SD810, with 4 GB of ram and QHD screen. Hopefully the new IMX230 will be along for the ride as well.
Jamzy
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Posted: 2015-07-17 15:10
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820 this year is HIGHLY unlikely...most phones including Z5 is very likely to use 810. Just the way it is.

Also bad news for the 820? Current rumour from Leaker @Ricciolo1, is that the 820 also has heat problems.
"SD810 and his successor are NOT so different in terms of HEAT ISSUES..you have to WAIT for the 830 (P. Q3-16).to "partially" solve this.. "
https://twitter.com/Ricciolo1/status/622019846897799172
amirprog
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Posted: 2015-07-17 15:41
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@randomuser
If what your source say is true then we can definitely forget about s820 in 2015. no doubt about it. but then if s820 also heats like s810 then it doesn't really matter. can you find out some info about the design and share with us? a new one or another evolution of ob? etc.

maybe the ultra version will be less prone for heating issues because of dimensions (?)
anyway, even if not, in the end it is not all about chipset and there are many features that sony can improve and add new once that can make all 3 devices a great buy, unlike z3+ with the same camera sensor, weaker battery, etc. i don't know about you guys but i am still very excited for the upcoming announcements.
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Posted: 2015-07-17 17:40
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been saying that since the beginning, Sony should have release a Z4 Ultra in H1 rather than the Z4/Z3+. Large size of the Ultra will help combat the heat, my Z ultra already shows less performance throttling than my Z1. Marketing wise it also won't have to go head to head against HTC, Samsung and everyone else for new standard size flagship. They need to alternate their flagship have phablet in H1 and standard size and compact in H2 so they won't go head to head with all others android venders. This way they can also wait for the possible more refined S810 for H2.
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