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Ebato
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Posted: 2014-04-04 21:06
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I don't think they will mention anything today, so I was looking to find some insider info, as if Sony WP to be released mid year, it must exist already in prototypes and stuff. Besides you're right, WP will now be $15-20 cheaper to produce than crapdroid.



On 2014-04-04 20:44:18, cu015170 wrote:

On 2014-04-04 20:41:36, Ebato wrote:
Any news about that Sony Windows Phone for mid year release??


They were supposed to mention something about it during BUILD, but so far nothing in today's keynote..

you can follow it here: http://channel9.msdn.com/

today is the last day.

I am guessing that Sony will do their own event later this month. It makes even more sense now since WP is free for OEMs .. which means that it will be cheaper to make WP than it is Android phones since you have to pay licensing fees for using android and you don't have to pay anything in order to use WP 8.1
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Posted: 2014-04-04 21:45
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The timing of it all is a bit off since they sold the Vaio line ... I thought that they will tie the WP smartphone into the tablet/PC/2in1 Vaios ...

Maybe they will just add WP to the Xperia line along with a tablet ?

Either way Sony design + camera engineering combined with WP 8.1 is a no brainer in terms of aesthetics and marketing in general
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Posted: 2014-04-05 04:32
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just a pinch of salt:

1 Sony will continue to deliver compact phone. The next generation will be shipped by the end of this year.
2 The designing of Xperia will change a bit for the 2nd half with the edge getting round.
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Posted: 2014-04-05 08:27
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Z3 spec:

MSM8994 A430 64bit ddr4 20nm

3rd of 2014
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Posted: 2014-04-05 09:41
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On 2014-04-04 20:41:36, Ebato wrote:
Any news about that Sony Windows Phone for mid year release??


Highly doubt any Windows Phone anytime soon. If it was the case, MS wld have announced Sony as a WP partner at the main event..
ascariss
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Posted: 2014-04-05 10:03
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On 2014-04-04 20:44:18, cu015170 wrote:

On 2014-04-04 20:41:36, Ebato wrote:
Any news about that Sony Windows Phone for mid year release??


They were supposed to mention something about it during BUILD, but so far nothing in today's keynote..

you can follow it here: http://channel9.msdn.com/

today is the last day.

I am guessing that Sony will do their own event later this month. It makes even more sense now since WP is free for OEMs .. which means that it will be cheaper to make WP than it is Android phones since you have to pay licensing fees for using android and you don't have to pay anything in order to use WP 8.1


Android is free, any additional costs comes from Microsoft suing various manufacturers because if you can't beat them, sue them. Sony is one of the android manufacturers that doesn't pay such additional licensing fees as far as I know. So nothing will be cheaper to make, both OSes are free, the fact some pay a license fee to microsoft is not part of the OS price directly.

As unknown mentioned, I didn't see Sony on the partner list.
http://www.slashgear.com/wind[....]ith-two-new-partners-02323372/

Belfiore showed a slide onstage which added partners Micromax and Prestigio to the ever-growing list of partners they’d already had. This includes names like LG, Nokia, Samsung, XOLO, ZTE, Lenovo, Karbonn, Huawei, HTC, and Gionee.


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http://images.scribblelive.co[....]4173-8031-8b7096250e6f_800.jpg

Even Samsung's WP effort is only for US only for now and there was no event for it, it was just announced. Shows how much Samsung believes in WP, basically a rebadged S4, running windows 8, not 8.1

On a side note, it's unfortunate that Sony sold off their Vaio division, since they could have created a tablet, 8 inch or even up to 8.9 inch running windows with no cost for OS.

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Posted: 2014-04-05 11:05
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something amazing is coming
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Posted: 2014-04-05 11:53
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On 2014-04-05 11:05:33, ardian wrote:
something amazing is coming



that should always be the case or Sony will die.
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Posted: 2014-04-05 11:57
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On 2014-04-05 11:05:33, ardian wrote:
something amazing is coming

That would amaze me.
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Posted: 2014-04-05 12:15
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@milukugiuniu
Cool. do you mean round edges mixed with omnibalance glass design?

about 64 bit, i read that the future 64 bit android OS and apps will require 4gb of ram to work efficiently. does that mean Z3 is likely to have 4gb of ram?
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Posted: 2014-04-05 12:45
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While not strictly to do with Xperia devices, Sony is expected to present their new curved image sensor technology at an upcoming technology symposium. Sony registered patents for a curved sensor back in 2012, but remember patents are often registered by companies without ever materialising in an actual consumer product.

Sony's sensor is described as an "advanced imaging system that comprises a curved, back-illuminated CMOS image sensor (BIS) and integrated lens which doubles the sensitivity at the edge of the image circle and increases the sensitivity at the center of the image circle by a factor of 1.4 ". However, before anyone gets too excited over combining a curved camera with an Xperia Arc design, this tech is expected to eventuate in a much larger camera instead (think Full Frame, not 1/2.3″ as with Z1/Z2).

Perhaps further down the road we might see a smaller 1/2.3" or 1/1.7" curved CMOS sensor, but the benefits may be substantially reduced compared to FF or APS-C.

Something else related to cameras: a few pages back we discussed the possibility of BIONZ making an appearance in upcoming Xperia devices. Something we all missed: the Z2 already has a BIONZ image-processing engine. It's labelled "BIONZ for Mobile", which simultaneously validates my branding prediction and inflates my ego ten-fold.

However, Ramu may still be correct as it is unclear whether the Z2's BIONZ processing is done through a dedicated chip (as with Sony's Alpha line) or the S801 instead.
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Posted: 2014-04-05 12:55
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@Smaug

BIONZ for mobile has been present on Z1 as well as Z2 Compact. In case of Z2 as well, it is software based.
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Posted: 2014-04-05 13:02
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On 2014-04-05 12:55:23, randomuser wrote:
@Smaug

BIONZ for mobile has been present on Z1 as well as Z2 Compact. In case of Z2 as well, it is software based.


Thanks for the clarification. So essentially we're still waiting on a dedicated chip (AKA Alpha range), which is looking unlikely at this stage.

That awkward moment when you turn over the box your Z1 came in and notice it clearly lists BIONZ For Mobile as a feature.
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Posted: 2014-04-05 13:27
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As mentioned a few pages back, a dedicated chip would probably eat up the battery and possibly generate too much heat, and with a closed body to env, this might overheat the device.

alpha rumours a new A7s camera, 12MP, 4K, wonder if this will use the new curve sensor?
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Posted: 2014-04-05 15:25
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On 2014-04-05 13:27:50, ascariss wrote:
As mentioned a few pages back, a dedicated chip would probably eat up the battery and possibly generate too much heat, and with a closed body to env, this might overheat the device.

alpha rumours a new A7s camera, 12MP, 4K, wonder if this will use the new curve sensor?


Alpha Rumours are pretty on the ball when it comes to their info, but I doubt the A7s would herald this new curved sensor. The technology still seems in its infancy, unless Sony wanted to take the market by surprise. Curved sensors would be a step-change in terms of potential image quality output. It makes sense to usher it in via a new flagship like the A7R II, although SAR mentioned the RX2.

As for BIONZ: agreed. I think I was the one that mentioned the issues with heat. Plus, with Xperia flagships already making use of software-based processing, I'm doubtful that a dedicated chip would bring much tangible improvement. It may be too much investment for little return or recognition by customers/reviewers, and that's without mentioning the drawbacks with battery/heat/size.
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