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ascariss
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Ok so perhaps hybrid focus was a bit too much, but phase detection would be possible if Sony tried, the S5 has it. one can dream. |
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Xajel
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@CrownedAkuma
Thanks very much, I was in a hurry and didn't read every post before I saw that pic 
And thanks @ascariss for the link 
BTW, BIONZ isn't designed for mobile, it consume a lot of power, the processing it self is not optimised for power but for higher quality and picture perfect ( and cost also ), they can optimise it for power but it won't be that much because of how much it process the data... so in order to make it for mobile, they will need to reduce the processing, optimise for power, and reduce the overall chip size, power consumption & heat to fit the mobile... and I don't see this will come in the coming year IF they're are working on one...
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Wishmaster89
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@ascariss
It's not like you can get phase detection and not include hybrid AF, almost all on sensor phase detection pixels work in hybrid mode using contrast detection for accuracy. Especially on such small sensors.
Phase detection is for speed but contrast for accuracy, without phase AF I fear that it would be too unreliable.
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ascariss
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well S5 has it. So either it's just phase detection or it is hybrid AF. Meaning it is possible and cost is not an issue. Perhaps this is why Samsung is having some troubles producing the new isocell sensor? |
Wishmaster89
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In case of S5 it is hybrid AF, not strictly phase detection (one more thing to remember, it doesn't work in low light conditions).
Why they are having problems producing their new sensor is something only Samsung knows, not convinced that phase detection pixels are to blame. More probable is that it's complex to produce and they're not as experienced as sony when it comes to camera sensors. |
Xajel
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PD requires extra stuff int he camera, a secondary internal lens ( not visible of course ), a focus sensor nearby the original sensor, the camera module will be larger to hold the new extra's... so beside the cost and complexity; PD is larger also and this is why they're conservative regarding this matter...
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Wishmaster89
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Currently you don't need extra stuff for phase detection, what was till know done through a dedicated sensor right now is achieved through dedicated pixels (instead of recording RGB wave length they calculate the distance, with some changes of course). This is how it is done in most high end mirrorless cameras right now and this is how Samsung is doing it in S5.
True, microlenses on the sensor need to be adjusted but it's not like they're not already on the sensor. So it doesn't require any additional space, but I agree cost and complexity is something that has to be considered. |
ascariss
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If anyone can do it, Sony can, they have the know how and expertise and manufacturing. If Samsung pulled it off, so can Sony. If anything, Sony could use such a new sensor in their upcoming point and shoots or higher end point and shoots in order to reduce the costs.
Perhaps Sony will announce this new sensor for the Z3 before hand or just announce it with the Z3, since it will probably be another Sony exclusive sensor again. |
Xajel
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Announcing Sony Power Food: Fuel Yourself And Your Gadget...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPRYB_PNWlA
I think we should have an evil smilie around here
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CrownedAkuma
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I was going to post it...
We should really have it! it would be useful
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Supa_Fly
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Should any Xperia Z1/Z2/Z1Mini user be worried about that heat sync shown in your second picture?! The fact that its there has me a little concerned as these are mobile chips and really shouldn't have a need for such a design or implementation to utilize heat syncing!!
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Xajel
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On 2014-04-02 01:53:40, Supa_Fly wrote:
@CrownedAkuma
Should any Xperia Z1/Z2/Z1Mini user be worried about that heat sync shown in your second picture?! The fact that its there has me a little concerned as these are mobile chips and really shouldn't have a need for such a design or implementation to utilize heat syncing!!
I guess you meant Heat sink
Those are not Heat sinks, these are Shields to prevent RF signals from going in wrong way, and prevent external RF signal from affecting the high frequency signals inside ( which will create errors that decrease the stability and performance )...
These shields are a must for every high-frequency device like smartphones... even simple devices like Network cable, USB cable ( specially USB 3.0 ), HDMI cables are shielded in a way or another... for example slower network cables ( like Cat 5 ) shields the whole cable, but faster cables like cat 6 or cat 7 shields individual data pairs as well as the whole cable... same goes for USB 3.0 cable and HDMI 1.4...
Of course they serve as heatsinks also, but only for high-end devices and the main purpose of them is RF shield.. as even low end devices ( where the chip won't go hot any way ) will have these RF shields...
I think it's even part of CE certifications for high-frequency devices...
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CrownedAkuma
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The new spot for Xperia Z2 and the new Jacko album crossover... the album will be called Xscape!
I do not know how many tracks wil be avaible inside it but still I like what I'm hearing... I hope this is not just a loop of the same pieces put together to resemble a song! 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]=player_embedded&v=KHcVKzQVO4A
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my ninja
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MicroUSB 3.1 Type C pictures released...
Lets see if we can move forward later this year for 2H14
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amirprog
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nice. it is supposed to replace the usb only on smartphones and tablets or also for any other electric device like computers usb?
EDIT: ah, nevermind. of course it's suppose to replace any device's usb. otherwise the cable wouldn't be reversible...
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Posted: 2014-03-31 06:54
K750|Z500|Z520|K700|K790i|K850i, :Ericsson: T18z|T28World|T36m x3|T68m (Ericsson, not the rebranded 
