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marcink
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actually no sane person will buy arc right now, when you can buy a phone with superior screen, processor, camera, memory, and loads of other features for a little more. Doministry, I'm so sorry for you. | |
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Tsepz_GP
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Android does support Landscape HS, LauncherPro and if im not mistaken ADW EX Launcher also does it, its all down to the manufacturer as to whether their launcher will do landscape or not. 
If i were to get a new phone this year the Galaxy S II would be the one for me as much as i like SE, the dual-core CPU, 1GB RAM, HD1080p@30FPS video, dual-core games, 1650mah batt etc.. would be too much to resist  especialy at the price.
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HYPER-X10
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On 2011-04-29 10:56:52, marcink wrote:
actually no sane person will buy arc right now, when you can buy a phone with superior screen, processor, camera, memory, and loads of other features for a little more. Doministry, I'm so sorry for you.
What a stupid thing to say. What if you don't like the SGS2? I don't. It's not like people didn't know it was coming when they bought an Arc. There are features the arc has that the SGS2 doesn't, (like appearance and physical buttons) that I put above any perceived advantage of the SGS2. If I had problems with lag, or wanted a front camera, I might reconsider.
For now, I'm comfortable knowing that when I want to upgrade  will most likely have a phone with physical buttons, appearance that I like and dual core, etc. (I'm not particularly an fan, but they seem to me to be the only ones offering physical buttons these days)
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doministry
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On 2011-04-29 10:56:52, marcink wrote:
actually no sane person will buy arc right now, when you can buy a phone with superior screen, processor, camera, memory, and loads of other features for a little more. Doministry, I'm so sorry for you.
You are sorry for me for your bull..hit opinion?
Lol 
I would not buy any Samsung because these devices are the least robust and reliable BTW.
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On 2011-04-29 05:10:04, Shino03 wrote:
On 2011-04-29 03:17:36, smclion102 wrote:
Camera showdown: Samsung Galaxy S II versus Xperia arc
Note: For all the picture samples below, the Xperia arc is on top and the Galaxy S II is on the bottom.
Even a 5 year old kid will be able to tell that the Arc's photos were taken by shaking hands.  Nice Try Eldar
This guy is a pathetic person.
And offensive too..
Of course these comparisons above are fake.
Take your time and go through GSMArena test, go through many places on the pictures
and see how the results vary between SGS II, Arc and Optimus 2x dependeing on the place.
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Caspa
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On 2011-04-29 14:56:04, HYPER-X10 wrote:
On 2011-04-29 10:56:52, marcink wrote:
actually no sane person will buy arc right now, when you can buy a phone with superior screen, processor, camera, memory, and loads of other features for a little more. Doministry, I'm so sorry for you.
What a stupid thing to say. What if you don't like the SGS2? I don't. It's not like people didn't know it was coming when they bought an Arc. There are features the arc has that the SGS2 doesn't, (like appearance and physical buttons) that I put above any perceived advantage of the SGS2. If I had problems with lag, or wanted a front camera, I might reconsider.
For now, I'm comfortable knowing that when I want to upgrade will most likely have a phone with physical buttons, appearance that I like and dual core, etc. (I'm not particularly an fan, but they seem to me to be the only ones offering physical buttons these days)
Don't be so stupid as to think everyone buys a phone based on specs and/or your opinion. Some people just buy things because they like them.
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false_morel
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On 2011-04-29 11:26:52, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Android does support Landscape HS, LauncherPro and if im not mistaken ADW EX Launcher also does it, its all down to the manufacturer as to whether their launcher will do landscape or not.
I know that Tsepz..
But those are third-party apps that not everyone would like the other functionality they bring along with landscape support..
Android not supporting landscape view for the overall UI is simply stupid! Same goes for the current version of WP..
Heck, with WP, even phones with Qwerty keyboards don't supprt any landscape orientation even when the slider is up!!
.........................
Anyway, back to the Arc.. The point is, with the Atrix, 2X, Sensation, and SGII, it's out of competition..
The Arc is competing with the likes of Nexus S and Incredilbe S!! And even against this bunch it has its shortcomings which constrain it!
However, the pricing is all logical if you'd ask me..
The above four high-ends are 550+ while the Arc is at 460..
There is like a 100 difference.. So it all up to the customers' choice..
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On 2011-04-29 20:07:13, false_morel wrote:
On 2011-04-29 11:26:52, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Android does support Landscape HS, LauncherPro and if im not mistaken ADW EX Launcher also does it, its all down to the manufacturer as to whether their launcher will do landscape or not.
I know that Tsepz..
But those are third-party apps that not everyone would like the other functionality they bring along with landscape support..
Android not supporting landscape view for the overall UI is simply stupid! Same goes for the current version of WP..
Heck, with WP, even phones with Qwerty keyboards don't supprt any landscape orientation even when the slider is up!!
.........................
Anyway, back to the Arc.. The point is, with the Atrix, 2X, Sensation, and SGII, it's out of competition..
The Arc is competing with the likes of Nexus S and Incredilbe S!! And even against this bunch it has its shortcomings which constrain it!
However, the pricing is all logical if you'd ask me..
The above four high-ends are 550+ while the Arc is at 460..
There is like a 100 difference.. So it all up to the customers' choice..
[ This Message was edited by: false_morel on 2011-04-29 19:08 ]
Those differences are overestimated IMO. And this whole double core thing.
You won't even notice this really.
There are some differences like design and UI. In my taste Samsung looks like sh..t and it's iPhone ripoff.
Plus apparently Samsung and Motorola are not well known for a stable and robust working.
So it's not only a choice between hardware. Smartphone is more than highend specs race.
Current devices don't really use the whole power of the platform.
But we have a choice and it's not one manufacturer anymore and that's great.
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dsr27
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Well I had a woman from vodafone ring me today and say its goin to be at least 2 1/2 to 3wks before I get my arc  suppose its not too long to wait |
se_dude
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@false_moral Its not about specs. techradar has rated the Arc way above the Atrix and the O2x and for good reason too. Have you tried the O2x? The O2x in its standard form is extremely laggy and hardly feels like a dual core phone. |
false_morel
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It's not about the specs only!
But first, most of smartphones buyers get them by two-years contracts.. Not everybody has the budget and even if the budget is there the interest to change phones every few months!!
That's the only reason the dual cores make some sense.. In two years time, or more, as some keep their phones even more, those dual cores will meet their uses..
Anyway, still, it's not about the specs..
What does the Arc offer anything special against the competition? Three categories: Design, UI, and camera.
As to the design it's a winner.. Those who're looking for a stylish high-end, not just a black plastic brick (Samsung) or an even uglier multi-panel grey alu brick (HTC), the Arc is there.. SE delivered a unique design. A point counted for them. But really now, for someone going for a 400+ SMARTPHONE, should the looks be high in the priority list or just considered an extra factor?!
As to the UI, it differs minimally in comparison to the standard UI.. And IMO, if they didn't have to do much, better leave it standard! Timescape is now a widget (app).. The standard UI is still the best IMO btw! But as to the current standards, for some reason I don't manage to figure out, it's considered boring and everyone is looking for as much customization and silly tricks and features as possilbe! For those the Touchwiz and the HTC Sense are the best!
So, either leave it standard, or work it out and deliver something on par with the Sense..
And as to the camera, had SE delivered something special here, then we'd be talking.. It may still be the best camera on an Android high-end, but just barely.. The others aren't far behind.. That is, nothing special here or worth considering as an extra point!
Everything else considered, the Arc lags behind..
Maybe, in comparison to the O2X, it could win more votes and even sell better! But as to the Atrix, Sensation, and GII, it is inferior..
It's a tough competition really.. And now that SE turned into a smartphone manufacturer and ditched the feature phones department, they really need to do more. Specially that they're relying on one platform only.
Their line-up is the smallest among all competitors, and they lack any stamp in the Android world..
HTC have their Sense UI or instance.. Samsung have their displays, Touchwiz, best specs..
SE introduced the Play of course.. Which was unfairly judged by almost all reviewers!! But they also need to give it some exclusive material! Only one Playsation title?! Really?! Had the Play for instance been released with a whole bunch of PS titles, then it'd be viewed differently.. Also, if it had packed a better GPU! Why not Adreno 220 instead of 205 for instance.. Minor stuff that really count.. |
Caspa
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Im looking forward to seeing both phones in the flesh, been looking at some videos of the Samsung and it looks like a sharp phone, not beautiful like the Arc but slim, smart and functional with that big bright screen being the focus point... Improvements to Touchwiz look decent too, like the way they have used the screen space...
The Android market is fantastic at the moment, lots of great handset to choice from... It's only gonna get better too...
Gonna hold out till the work line contracts are up in June and see what I can do, think its between the Arc and SG2 though... Need to try both out... |
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Qualcomm touts Snapdragon and its HD video capabilities
While NVIDIA is getting a lot of good press for the powerhouse that is the Tegra 2 chip inside devices like the T-Mobile G2x, Qualcomm wants you to know that its Snapdragon processor has plenty of power, too.
In the video below, Qualcomm touts the Snapdragon and its ability to play back HD video. One of the cool things is that it can play 720p HD video in HTML5. Many times in Android, when you click on those videos, itll just kick you out to the media player.
Its not just with HTML5 though, as Qualcomm Snapdragon has been working with Adobe to provide some high-quality Flash playback. Theres a portion in the video comparing the Flash HD video on a Qualcomm device versus a competing product and its not even close.
VIDEO-->> http://youtu.be/8ilIooqAnU0?hd=1
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doministry
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On 2011-04-30 04:48:33, false_morel wrote:
It's not about the specs only!
But first, most of smartphones buyers get them by two-years contracts.. Not everybody has the budget and even if the budget is there the interest to change phones every few months!!
That's the only reason the dual cores make some sense.. In two years time, or more, as some keep their phones even more, those dual cores will meet their uses..
Anyway, still, it's not about the specs..
What does the Arc offer anything special against the competition? Three categories: Design, UI, and camera.
As to the design it's a winner.. Those who're looking for a stylish high-end, not just a black plastic brick (Samsung) or an even uglier multi-panel grey alu brick (HTC), the Arc is there.. SE delivered a unique design. A point counted for them. But really now, for someone going for a 400+ SMARTPHONE, should the looks be high in the priority list or just considered an extra factor?!
As to the UI, it differs minimally in comparison to the standard UI.. And IMO, if they didn't have to do much, better leave it standard! Timescape is now a widget (app).. The standard UI is still the best IMO btw! But as to the current standards, for some reason I don't manage to figure out, it's considered boring and everyone is looking for as much customization and silly tricks and features as possilbe! For those the Touchwiz and the HTC Sense are the best!
So, either leave it standard, or work it out and deliver something on par with the Sense..
And as to the camera, had SE delivered something special here, then we'd be talking.. It may still be the best camera on an Android high-end, but just barely.. The others aren't far behind.. That is, nothing special here or worth considering as an extra point!
Everything else considered, the Arc lags behind..
Maybe, in comparison to the O2X, it could win more votes and even sell better! But as to the Atrix, Sensation, and GII, it is inferior..
It's a tough competition really.. And now that SE turned into a smartphone manufacturer and ditched the feature phones department, they really need to do more. Specially that they're relying on one platform only.
Their line-up is the smallest among all competitors, and they lack any stamp in the Android world..
HTC have their Sense UI or instance.. Samsung have their displays, Touchwiz, best specs..
SE introduced the Play of course.. Which was unfairly judged by almost all reviewers!! But they also need to give it some exclusive material! Only one Playsation title?! Really?! Had the Play for instance been released with a whole bunch of PS titles, then it'd be viewed differently.. Also, if it had packed a better GPU! Why not Adreno 220 instead of 205 for instance.. Minor stuff that really count..
Well for you stock Android UI is good, for others it's cr..p. I can't stand it.
For me and some others Arc's UI is the best existing. But you can't objectively say which is best or worse. This is bull..shit.
As for specs it's just blah blah blah ATM.
I've seen some comparative videos and in fact those differences are just nothing for the user.
Of course you always have to push when you make phones and we'll see the strategy in the future.
I could also revert the question - what special thing SGSII gives besides the gimmick.
It's iPhone ripoff and also as some stated above, the quality..... In Poland we joke "Sheissung" - it's a mix of Scheiss (sh.t in German) and Samsung.
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false_morel
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On 2011-04-30 15:40:58, doministry wrote:
Well for you stock Android UI is good, for others it's cr..p. I can't stand it.
For me and some others Arc's UI is the best existing. But you can't objectively say which is best or worse. This is bull..shit.
What I wanted to hint to is that SE introduced nothing special by this UI!
It resides somewhere in between the standard UI and the likes of Touchwiz and Sense UI..
It's not all bad of course.. Going with light customization may reduce the bugs and the lags as well as enable SE to give the respective updates in faster rates..
Still, it might not appeal to the majority out there..
However, I agree it could come also to individual tastes and priorities..
As for specs it's just blah blah blah ATM.
I've seen some comparative videos and in fact those differences are just nothing for the user.
Of course you always have to push when you make phones and we'll see the strategy in the future.
I'm aware of this new hype about the processor speeds.. Similar to that of the MP race..
However, this shares with the MP race only one thing: Given too much attention and shouldn't be the main standard to rank the smartphones upon.
However, unlike the MP count which is even a secondary factor in defining the quality of a cameraphone, and even has bad consequences the more it higher it goes, processor speeds don't!
Only concern is battery usage. But it is confirmed that with the right optimization the dual core is more efficient than a single core..
Other than that, as said, there may be no optimized software right now for such hardware, but it wont stay long like this!
In two years time, even the 1.2 dual cores would be outdated and not enough to run the software then!
Same concept as with laptops..
I could also revert the question - what special thing SGSII gives besides the gimmick.
Here we go:
- Super AMOLED Plus > LED-backlit LCD
- 16 GB > 320MB internal memory!! (Even if there is an 8GB SD card included with the arc)
- 1GB RAM > 512 MB!!!
- 1650 mAh > 1500 mAh
- 1080 HD > 720 HD (not important)
- Bluetooth 3.0 > 2.1 (not important)
- Mali-400MP > Adreno 205
- 1.2 GHz Dual Core Exynos > 1 GHz single core Scorpion
- Supports all media formats (video and audio) > doesn't support all formats (not sure but does the Arc support DivX/XviD?)
That's not to mention the Arc's issues and missing features that aren't there on the SGII:
- No Gyroscope, NFC (not important), USB OTG!, front facing camera (Come on! The SGII has 2MP one!!), bad positioning of the camera and headset jack, and despite the hype SE made about the camera sensor, the SGII is on par with it..
The Arc wins on the design, and that it has a camera shutter button althoug it's too small and replaced awkwardly at the very end of the phone!
Again, the Arc will be like 100 to 150 cheaper, so it's all up for the user to decide.
It's iPhone ripoff and also as some stated above, the quality..... In Poland we joke "Sheissung" - it's a mix of Scheiss (sh.t in German) and Samsung.
I might get the SGII but just to test it! Not a fan of the design at all nor of the UI..
And unless Samsung stop copying and start to innovate they'll stay by my standards all cheap Korean products!
Same story with HTC and their crappy hardware..
I'll just stick to Nokia and SE prodcuts and nothing seem to change for me soon..
One can't deny though that Samsung are offering the top Android devices in the market right now.. | |
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