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Sony Xperia Rumours 2018 |
Moe87
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About XZ2 , it is normal now. Few asian markets gets better versions.
Quad DAC LG G6, 128GB green S6, 6GB ram S8 in China..
Lars Rehm ( DxO) wrote on DPR about the new dual cam.
" No further technical detail was provided at this point but given the camera module will be powered by a new "Fusion" Image Signal Processor, it's fair to assume the high sensitivities will be achieved by some kind of computational imaging process, merging image data captured simultaneously on the two sensors of the dual-camera. This is not a totally new concept - for example Huawei is merging image data from an RGB and a monochrome sensor on some of its dual-camera models - but given Sony's bold high ISO claims there is a good chance its engineers have found another secret ingredient to boost performance to new levels. A low-light demo setup behind the scenes at the Sony booth shows that the new system is capable of capturing good exposures in extremely dim lighting" |
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tai020381
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Now lets take a step back covert ourselves in CEO Sony shoes. If the XZ 2 premium was announced together with the XZ 2 and compact, sales of those 2 phones will definitely drop much. Therefore no choice but to push back announcement but give hint on what new features to be expected for the upcoming premium. |
josephnero
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https://www.phonearena.com/ne[....]ion-ISP-and-51200-ISO_id102809
A Sony representative has spilled the beans on an upcoming flagship from the company that will sport a brand new Fusion Image Signal processor
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Gitaroo
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On 2018-02-26 17:24:07, tai020381 wrote:
Now lets take a step back covert ourselves in CEO Sony shoes. If the XZ 2 premium was announced together with the XZ 2 and compact, sales of those 2 phones will definitely drop much. Therefore no choice but to push back announcement but give hint on what new features to be expected for the upcoming premium.
This is true, sales of XZ1 and XZC must be shit with the shiny XZP being available already. They probably realized it was a mistake. Shittier models need to be out the door first before a super high end model. Even samsung understand this with S and note series.
Like no duh and this can also mean many things, a lot of time Sony rep don't even know what they are talking about. Like a lot of them at CES booth.
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Moe87
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Question for those who own XZP/XZ1..
Is there HDR playback on youtube?
Just read an article of ePrice about new features.
They say that what could be a prototype of mighty flagship seems to be 16:9.
😊.. I hope they are right.
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Lazaros-K
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On 2018-02-26 18:55:02, Moe87 wrote:
Question for those who own XZP/XZ1..
Is there HDR playback on youtube?
Yes, but currently it's limited to 1080p HDR. On the XZ Premium it's the same. But it plays 4k non HDR videos fine. |
ascariss
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On 2018-02-26 11:40:14, AlvinZahranM wrote:
With the technology still being a concept, I don't think we're going to see it soon, even at IFA. Usually, Sony unveils their old concept to the public as an official product is at least one year after the initial announcement. We might see it next year, worse case scenario.
Not always the case, both the WF-1000X and WI-1000X which launched at IFA 2017, were introduced as "concepts"at CES 2017. So no doubt Sony is already working on it no doubt and an IFA reveal is most likely the best place but Sony could also do their own thing before IFA as not to have other IFA products overshadow the dual camera phone?
Close up of the new dual cam module.
Would be great if the dual cam setup finally brought in OIS. If you zoom in on the photo, the 2 modules look the same on the outside but the area surrounding the lens is slightly different.
I really wonder how sony will achieve good photos at 51200 ISO using a 1/2.3 senor, assuming that is the size being use on the dual cam device. Is there even any compact camera that is 1/2.3 and has such a high iso value? I fear for noise levels.
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Moe87
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I guess the smallest sensor of cameras is 1".
The one inside RX100.
It has 116.16 mm2.
1/2.3" sensors have almost 8mm diagonal. The two sensors of Z phones are 7.87mm, imx 400 is 7.73mm.
I dont remember exactly the area, but I think is bit less than 30 mm2.
Which means 1/2.3" is about 1/4 of the 1" sensor.
I have no idea how this sensor works, but it probably has readout much faster than imx400.
There are 4 spots around the one on left. Does anyone know what they are?
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tai020381
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On 2018-02-26 19:46:37, ascariss wrote:
On 2018-02-26 11:40:14, AlvinZahranM wrote:
With the technology still being a concept, I don't think we're going to see it soon, even at IFA. Usually, Sony unveils their old concept to the public as an official product is at least one year after the initial announcement. We might see it next year, worse case scenario.
Not always the case, both the WF-1000X and WI-1000X which launched at IFA 2017, were introduced as "concepts"at CES 2017. So no doubt Sony is already working on it no doubt and an IFA reveal is most likely the best place but Sony could also do their own thing before IFA as not to have other IFA products overshadow the dual camera phone?
Close up of the new dual cam module.
Would be great if the dual cam setup finally brought in OIS. If you zoom in on the photo, the 2 modules look the same on the outside but the area surrounding the lens is slightly different.
I really wonder how sony will achieve good photos at 51200 ISO using a 1/2.3 senor, assuming that is the size being use on the dual cam device. Is there even any compact camera that is 1/2.3 and has such a high iso value? I fear for noise levels.
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If they combine it with multi frame NR the effect should be drastic improvement. |
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Did anyone launch any SD845 phones at MWC? |
ADIDA
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On 2018-02-26 22:01:40, ascariss wrote:
Did anyone launch any SD845 phones at MWC?
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s Tomorrow |
josephnero
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Beside Samsung? No
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi[....]845_on_march_27-news-29788.php
Not unveiled tomorrow but on march 27.
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Nevewolf
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Since the Xperia XZ we have Multi-Frame Noise Reduction.
(For Front cam and for Twilight Handled scene)
http://www.xperiablog.net/wp-[....]ony-Xperia-XZ-technology_3.jpg
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tai020381
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XZ1 And XZ premium did not have this function in manual mode ... And hope they allow manual shutter to 30 seconds... |
Moe87
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If you have a tripod it can be useful.
Otherwise it is impossible to prevent shaking for that long.
The older phones have " shake reduction" as SCN mode.
Does not seem to work.
An advice for those that only use auto, reduce brightness then ISO goes lower.
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